Relocation Brackets vs Long Control Arms

[chorky]

That would be the easiest way to unseat a coil. Full rear droop should only happen on whoops or if the truck is airborne.

i kinda feel like if this was a thing with aev or the other drop bracket lifts there would be a lot of people talking about it. Because if this could happen then that means even lifting a vehicle for repairs or an oil change would unseat the coil

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[RodRecket]

typically it is the shocks that limit down travel, well thst combined with less flexible OEM rubber bushings. I know when I didnthe suspension on my TJ i considered limit straps but decided not to as I didnt want to weld the frame. But on my TJ the shocks are the likiting factor. So that means if I ever did some high speedstuff where a wheel came off the ground or did maximum droop fast it would slam the inside of the shock piston against the bottom of the shock - which is bad. But since thats not my MO I dont worry about it much. Now coil springs being unseated is a whole different situation that could happen at low speed.

could you just jack up the rear by bumper or frame and let the axle hang to see what happens? Seems like doing that before hitting trails might be a safer bet just to be sure

I'll have to try jacking the rear up by the hitch and getting full droop. It's actually a likely scenario coming off a step in moab. Now I just need a jack tall enough....

 

[JT1]

i kinda feel like if this was a thing with aev or the other drop bracket lifts there would be a lot of people talking about it. Because if this could happen then that means even lifting a vehicle for repairs or an oil change would unseat the coil

I've never unseated a front coil on any jeep unless it was to swap it and usually you have to have a shock removed.

The back is different. Someone on here actually did it with a set of falcon 3.3s, but I can't find the thread

 

[chorky]

I've never unseated a front coil on any jeep unless it was to swap it and usually you have to have a shock removed.

The back is different. Someone on here actually did it with a set of falcon 3.3s, but I can't find the thread

wow. Thats kinda concerning. I wonder what the extended length of those falcons are compared to bilstien. And what springs they had. But its great this tooic has been brought up

 

[JT1]

I'll have to try jacking the rear up by the hitch and getting full droop. It's actually a likely scenario coming off a step in moab. Now I just need a jack tall enough....

Unless the rear bumper/hitch didn't make it off the obstacle and you got stuck hanging, I can't picture that happening.

With both tires drooped, the trackbar would be articulating in an arc, and you would probably run out of bushing flex in the shock mounts and rear arms before you could unseat a coil.

With one tire down and one stuffed, I could see it forcing more flex and getting an extra inch or 2 of droop on one side.

 

[JT1]

wow. Thats kinda concerning. I wonder what the extended length of those falcons are compared to bilstien. And what springs they had. But its great this tooic has been brought up

I remember the rear shocks were long, but not the specs, and seems like it may have been a rock krawler kit? But I'm not as young as I used to be..

 

[Lunentucker]

Installed the @TeraFlex rear geometry correction brackets.
First drive - it feels less harsh and less hoppy in the back end and more planted. Maybe I'm imagining things, but it also feels like the Jeep rolls easier when coasting. Pinion angle thing maybe.

It's a pretty good workout to install, and I had to use a ratchet strap to pull things together to get the last LCA bolt in, but it's not awful. The right tools sure help. For example, torquing to 111 plus 90 degrees is easier when you can run that 90 degrees with the impact.

The only reason I can figure the smaller bolts are there is to perhaps prevent the span from bowing out under duress.

They're easier to get in with the wheel off, but you need the vehicle back on the wheels before you tighten the control arm bolts.

Went off road on the rugged grass trail in the front yard for a glam shot.

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[GladLad]

Rancho Relocation Brackets

Based on these pictures, it looks like the brackets move the control arms inward as well, by an amount equal to the thickness of the bracket. This could perhaps also lessen LCA rub with larger tires. And by lowering the LCAs, it could also change where/when they rub in certain flex situations.

You have clearance to the bracket of 13.5", but could you measure how much it drops from the current bracket? It would allow anyone to measure their setup and calculate from there.

Thanks!

 

[RudeJeepin]

Since someone else brought this thread back, I'll add to it.
I added new shocks to my 22JTRD. I also added the Clayton 1/2" Diesel lift front springs, the ones designed to help with front end bottoming out. Definitely like them.
The new shocks I added have these specs.
Front compressed 17.43", extended 26.66"
Rear compressed 18.14", extended 27.24"
The front aren't an issue, flexed out or on a vehicle lift.
Now the rear, is an issue with stock springs. Flexed out they are fine, but when I put it on my buddy's vehicle lift to change oil, the rear coils unseated. So I added the Teraflex Rear Upper/Lower Coil Spring Retainer Kit 4954000. $70ish and super easy to install.

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