Since no news on 4xe Gladiator this week, when is next likely update?

[smlobx]

Keep in mind that the 4XE has a 2 L turbo ICE which is not offered in the Gladiator.
I haven’t read anything about electrifying the 3.6L engine.

I have heard that the next vehicle to be electrified will be the 2022 Grand Cherokee (2 row vehicle) as that is one of Stelatis’ bread and butter vehicles..

I’m also waiting on any news about a 3L straight 6 gas engine that will have the capability to be turbocharged…

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[sharpsicle]

Keep in mind that the 4XE has a 2 L turbo ICE which is not offered in the Gladiator.
I haven’t read anything about electrifying the 3.6L engine.

This exactly. I don't see them putting the 4-cylinder engine in the Gladiator. Doesn't follow their current use case. They're probably looking to develop a "6xe" instead. I wouldn't expect to ever have the 4xe in the Glad.

Having said that, you're probably going to be waiting a few years for any kind of electric hybrid for our platform from the factory. They still need to develop it.

 

[Oilburner]

Much less the additional weight vs. capacity challenges

 

[DAVECS1]

I dont see why the 4xe drivetrain would not drop right in. It think it qould be perfect. I would seriously think about doong it myself if a good deal on a salvaged 4xe came up

 

[Orange01z28]

Pretty gross if we get the 4Xe before a V8 option

 

[ygrignon]

JT will get updates as soon as Ford announces the Bronco Pickup, same reason the Wrangler gets all the love now

Ford is coming up with the Bronco pickup truck for the 2025 model year. Hopefully Jeep updates the Gladiator before then

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/ford-bronco-pickup-truck-lightyears-away/

 

[TheSolarWizard]

At the rate they’re selling 4xe I wouldn’t count on the gladiator being eligible for the federal tax credit. The option is also going up in price for 2022

 

[dcmdon]

I dont see why the 4xe drivetrain would not drop right in. It think it qould be perfect. I would seriously think about doong it myself if a good deal on a salvaged 4xe came up

Exactly. That's my point.

It will drop right in. The engineering has already been done.

 

[dcmdon]

Pretty gross if we get the 4Xe before a V8 option

I disagree. I'm no green wacko. But I'm cheap. I won't drive a 12 mpg daily driver. The 4xe gives you all the convenience of a gas engine, with better efficiency and tons of low end torque.

470 ft-lbs of torque!!

 

[onewhippedpuppy]

While the Gladiator is rated to tow in the ballpark of 7,500 lbs max, does anyone actually do that on a regular basis? I towed about 9,000 lbs worth of boat and trailer with a built Ecoboost F150 rated to tow 12,500 lbs for a year and then moved up to an F250 because I never felt comfortable in the 1/2 ton truck. I can’t imagine feeling comfortable in the smaller, lighter, and way less powerful Gladiator.

 

[DAVECS1]

I have towed 2000 chevy silverado on my aluminum trailer. That was pushing 7000 lbs. Weight distribution hitch and 12 inch brakes on all four trailer wheels. It was not an issue. Stop and go was sufficient. Ate alot of gas, and had to go slow through town.

 

[Oilburner]

Exactly. That's my point.

It will drop right in. The engineering has already been done.

The engineering to tow 3500# in a Wrangler has been done. That’s all we know for certain.

 

[dcmdon]

The engineering to tow 3500# in a Wrangler has been done. That’s all we know for certain.

I'm not sure if you have ever built anything. But it will quite literally bolt right in. The entire power plant's engineering is all done.

All that you are describing is an SAE test to determine its maximum tow capability.

I'm not saying all the work is done. But it is realistically 90% done.
What is left would be
1) battery packaging.
2) suspension tuning.
3) cooling analysis and sizing of battery radiator, coolant radiator and/or oil cooler and/or transmission oil cooler.
4) Chassis stress analysis on the rear suspension since this is from a Ram an not related to the Wrangler.
5) Software design.

What is done is
1) Powerplant design and integration between ICE and electric system.
2) wiring harness design.
3) Hybrid software.
4) Engine compartment integration
5) interior ingegration
6) instrumentation design and integration.

The stuff that needs to be done is detail work compared to what has already been done. The Gladiator and the Wrangler are essentially identical forward of the B Pillar.

 

[dcmdon]

While the Gladiator is rated to tow in the ballpark of 7,500 lbs max, does anyone actually do that on a regular basis? I towed about 9,000 lbs worth of boat and trailer with a built Ecoboost F150 rated to tow 12,500 lbs for a year and then moved up to an F250 because I never felt comfortable in the 1/2 ton truck. I can’t imagine feeling comfortable in the smaller, lighter, and way less powerful Gladiator.

Lets pretend you have 2 vehicles that both have a 7500 lb tow rating.

Vehicle A has that limit because when the SAE tested it up a 5% grade with the AC on on a 94 deg day, the engine ran out of cooling capacity.

Vehicle B has that limit because when the SAE tested it with an emergency avoidance maneuver the vehicle became dangerously unstable.

They both have the same tow limitation.

But one will tow in excess of 7500 lbs in most cases easily. The other should never be used to tow more than its rating.

 

[DAVECS1]

I dont have to pretend, between my suspension supercharger and suspension. I could probably tow much more but don't they have to put numbers on the truck for the lowest common denominator. The Gladiator is wayyyyyyy more fun with more power and suspension.

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