stellantis Poll v-8 gladiator

[slowstang305]

I would not start over with a new build just to go to a 5.7 at this point.

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[Wheelin98TJ]

The 5.7 doesn't make those numbers until 4000+ rpm, it's going to feel just as "wrung out" as the 3.6

340 ft lbs at about 2k RPM will not feel as “wrung out” as 260 ft lbs at 4,800 RPM.

 

[Lost1wing]

I can remember going to car shows just to see what is new. Did they change the front end, did they change the rear end or is it a total redesign. I miss that part of the auto industry. Just about every year there was some sort of change under the hood. Oh yeah, I remember special builds too. My 66 Impala had 6 different engine options. The VIN showed the code for the class engine whether it was a 6 cylinder, small 8 or a big block 8. There was only one variation of the 6, but there where different variations of the 283 and 327 sb. The 396 had a few different options in the impala.

Engine options were nice. One to fit everyone's price and or needs. Now it's cost of production and the needs of the manufactures.

 

[Hootbro]

............ Oh yeah, I remember special builds too. My 66 Impala had 6 different engine options. The VIN showed the code for the class engine whether it was a 6 cylinder, small 8 or a big block 8. There was only one variation of the 6, but there where different variations of the 283 and 327 sb. The 396 had a few different options in the impala.

Those were the Golden Years of manufacturing. Everything was analog and just about anything could be an option regardless of trim if it bolted up with very few limitations.

If you were lucky enough to have a inside guy at the plant, they could walk your custom order down the line and sometimes have "off sheet" things installed.

 

[Rusty PW]

Those were the Golden Years of manufacturing. Everything was analog and just about anything could be an option regardless of trim if it bolted up with very few limitations.

If you were lucky enough to have a inside guy at the plant, they could walk your custom order down the line and sometimes have "off sheet" things installed.

My ex brother in law worked at the Mustang plant in NJ back in the 70's. He walked his own Mustang Boss 302 down the line. It had options that very few knew about.

 

[Q Tip]

When my Pop got out of the air force in 1959, he went to England and bought a new Triumph MGA and was escorted down the production line along side it as it was being built. He received the keys and drove it off all over Europe. All went well until he came over a hill in Italy and ran over a man's breakfast that he was eating on a white and red checkered tablecloth in the middle of the road.

 

[Gvsukids]

When my Pop got out of the air force in 1959, he went to England and bought a new Triumph MGA and was escorted down the production line along side it as it was being built. He received the keys and drove it off all over Europe. All went well until he came over a hill in Italy and ran over a man's breakfast that he was eating on a white and red checkered tablecloth in the middle of the road.

Then what happened? Unless he ran over the man,I wouldn't think splattering breakfast would turn into an issue.

 

[Q Tip]

Oh the fellow jumped up cursing him and shaking his fist! But he thought he was an English man because the MGA had little British flags on it lol.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

All went well until he came over a hill in Italy and ran over a man's breakfast that he was eating on a white and red checkered tablecloth in the middle of the road.

Some people have no brains. Seriously - in a traveled path - for horses, bikes, cars, whatever, what sort of a dope lays out breakfast in the middle of a path intended for some sort of traffic, then blames the person using the path for the intended purpose?

 

[Supazuk]

I'm gonna go with Maybe ... and that's really a no. Mostly because i have no plan on selling my current Gladiator. I wish to do a V8 swap it in the future and the potential V8 factory gladiator option in this current platform would make things easier for me. Part sourcing tuning etc
However, unless something unfortunate happens, like a building falling on it or stolen and never found I don't plan another Gladiator

 

[LatLong]

Unfortunately, $50k for a 5.7 Hemi in a Gladiator base model is not going to happen. Not when Stellantis can get more. Look at how much the 392 has increased since its inception. I would like see the ABILITY to ORDER a 5.7 or 6.4 Hemi as premium options for those that want it on any trim. Say $8-15k. For most that want more power without mpg compromise. It does not have to be a CA or NY available option either. For those of us in the mountains, an NA 5.7 or 6.4 would only get us to the base performance the flatlanders get out of the Hybrid.

 

[smlobx]

Unfortunately, $50k for a 5.7 Hemi in a Gladiator base model is not going to happen. Not when Stellantis can get more. Look at how much the 392 has increased since its inception. I would like see the ABILITY to ORDER a 5.7 or 6.4 Hemi as premium options for those that want it on any trim. Say $8-15k. For most that want more power without mpg compromise. It does not have to be a CA or NY available option either. For those of us in the mountains, an NA 5.7 or 6.4 would only get us to the base performance the flatlanders get out of the Hybrid.

I don’t know why you and others keep saying a 5.7 will be an $8-15k upgrade. That’s BS.

If you go online now and look at what Ram is offering on their 2026 models for engine choices you’ll see this:

so the Hurricane engine is a $1700 upgrade over the 3.6 and the 5.7 Hemi is a zero cost upgrade…

 

[LatLong]

Great, I would just think that it would be worth an upgrade cost of up to $8k-15k for the option. Just an opinion.

For those of us that have looked into swaps already and thought about it, we know that there are a few more engineered bits to make the JT allow for the Hemis. The Ram 1500s were originally engineered to fit the Hemis. The Hurricane would be great, but the JT platform was never designed for it, therefore Stellantis would have to reverse engineer, like the 392, to make both the Hemis and the Hurricanes to fit. I would assume that if they are going to put warranties on them, they would have it done right and expect to get compensated.

 

[Stan H]

Great, I would just think that it would be worth an upgrade cost of up to $8k-15k for the option. Just an opinion.

For those of us that have looked into swaps already and thought about it, we know that there are a few more engineered bits to make the JT allow for the Hemis. The Ram 1500s were originally engineered to fit the Hemis. The Hurricane would be great, but the JT platform was never designed for it, therefore Stellantis would have to reverse engineer, like the 392, to make both the Hemis and the Hurricanes to fit. I would assume that if they are going to put warranties on them, they would have it done right and expect to get compensated.

Thats Utterly preposterous No milking me ! They can go tug on some other cash cow. 🫢

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Great, I would just think that it would be worth an upgrade cost of up to $8k-15k for the option. Just an opinion.

For those of us that have looked into swaps already and thought about it, we know that there are a few more engineered bits to make the JT allow for the Hemis. The Ram 1500s were originally engineered to fit the Hemis. The Hurricane would be great, but the JT platform was never designed for it, therefore Stellantis would have to reverse engineer, like the 392, to make both the Hemis and the Hurricanes to fit. I would assume that if they are going to put warranties on them, they would have it done right and expect to get compensated.

Everyone forgets - COOLING
(been mentioned in other hemi threads here so maybe not everyone reads those)
COOLING is key to the towing numbers on these. They played hell trying to get to the numbers they got.
IS there some fudge factor? Perhaps, but a hemi will require more cooling.

As far as price - people can't see how it could possibly cost so much - if the CAFE fines were ever brought back, the cost associated with a Jeep vs. a Ram as far as missing the CAFE numbers are one reason for the costs.
People also fail to understand that.
In the day (however long or SHORT that time will be) of $0 fines, that may change, but..............
There's still COOLING.
You can't just plot a hemi in these and not deal with the new SAE testing and the cooling issues.

If wishing made things so - OMG, would my life be different.
If wishing made obstacles go away - just imagine..

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