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Just be glad that the ban hammer didn't think of you as a nail and pound you.
It has happened - I was on the former AMC Eagle Nest forum and people were comparing gas prices and asking what gas we ran in our Eagles. I mentioned I lived in Iowa and as such, fuel prices might not reflect what others see due to the fact it's a CORN state, and laws support anything to make money from farming and how the tax structure was on various fuels.
I detailed the incentives and such - never once said I was for or against or blamed or praised - and the admin said I was talking politics. I asked what he was talking about, please give an example - and then he said "ok, now you're arguing with the admin" - and booted me. It used to be run by a really close friend and fellow Iowan - and he said this other guy leveraged the forum away from him and forced him out and was taking a big hammer to anything he didn't like.

I do think the hemi is nice for the purist, and I’d love to claim to be one. But the price for a hemi swap is just nuts. I’ll definitely look into LS as an option.
My next Jeep engine swap....... there's an old Jeep pickup sitting a few miles away my neighbor told me about and is keeping an eye on for me (he said it reminds him of my Gladiator - but is pre-1950s). I have the engine, just need to build it. Neighbor says that Jeep truck has a SBC in it now - ugh, get that outta there and slap in the 401 with a world class T5 or better.

If I had the cash laying around, I'd put in something like this - yeah, it's a Jeep engine - but I'm pretty sure the bell housing bolt pattern got changed somewhere through the years and the darned thing won't bolt up either to the new Jeeps or the very old Jeeps.

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LS - what a lame cookie-cutter, belly button way to go. Nice engines but they are in everything from the tri-five Chevies to 1970 C20s to whatever. Everyone does it, everyone is doing it. Boring!!
 

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LS - what a lame cookie-cutter, belly button way to go. Nice engines but they are in everything from the tri-five Chevies to 1970 C20s to whatever. Everyone does it, everyone is doing it. Boring!!
Because they are basically free, and they have already been put into everything so there is nothing weird to figure out.
 

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"LS - what a lame cookie-cutter, belly button way to go. Nice engines but they are in everything from the tri-five Chevies to 1970 C20s to whatever. Everyone does it, everyone is doing it. Boring"

Which to me would indicate desirability. But a real treat would be a Hurricane swap. If someone comes up with that I'll be selling stuff and raiding savings. Honestly my only issue with the 3.6 is its lack of low end power.
 

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Because they are basically free, and they have already been put into everything so there is nothing weird to figure out.
And that's what makes it boring. Anyone can do it, no brain required, no thinking, no figuring anything out. You see a line of classic and antique cars in a huge show and out of 7 cars, 5 have an LS in them (I'm referring to an actual car show I went to - that was exactly what the lineup was).
Walk right by, ignore them. Takes nothing, order from JC Whitney, bolt it in and there you go.
There's no creativity, heck, you don't even need to be a mechanic or think at all - read a sheet of instructions and it runs. Nothing to figure out.
Hmmmm, sounds like I just described most of the people working in shops these days.

So, what was the original topic again?
 

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I'm on a motorcycle board, owned by an individual.

His feelings, as it's HIS page, vary from day to day.

Some days you can say things, some days his Wife was mean to him.

On "Wife Mean" days you get a nasty gram or banned.

Same here, this board is owned by someone.

Some have power as admins.

All depends on how they are feeling that day.

As the board is not owned by me, that's how it is, I try to behave myself to remember this is a valuable resource.

Don't feel bad, I got whacked the udder day, saw a CGI video group that contained laughable Gladiator content, and thought it was worthy of being shared.

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CGI content!

D E L E T E D !

Who knew?

Now we all do.
 
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Well it’s insane how a new Jeep Gladiator costs over $75,000! They’re not the only ones though. Full size trucks have gotten WAY WAY overpriced.
Everything has gone up in price, groceries, restaurants, clothing, insurance, housing, interest rates and vehicles.
 

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A jeep gladiator doesn't have to cost over 75k. You picked a special edition model that happens to be the exception. Even then, it's steeply discounted to well under 75k. Also, I might be one of the few who do not purchase vehicles based on resale value. I knew the market was out of wack when I bought my '21. I think we all did. Now it's correcting, and that's a good thing. There's also lots of value gained during the last 2 years that wasn't financially driven. We've made so many memories during that time with this truck that is well worth the cost for us. This one's a keeper. Probably spent over 80k on it and still counting lol.
Great attitude! Likewise while buying our truck in Q4-22 wasn’t an optimal time to negotiate but we needed, as in truly needed, to move up to a truck at that time. We could have bought used and held out but I’m happy with the truck and will probably keep it 10 years plus.
Point being there are lots of facets to the decision of which financials are part but not all of the story.
 

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Agreed I drive the speed limit. It's fast enough. What always gets me is that dude doing 10 mph faster than you and you end up arriving like 5 minutes faster or they get caught at the same light you do. Really not worth it. Drive the speed limit
On the highway it is.

"LS - what a lame cookie-cutter, belly button way to go. Nice engines but they are in everything from the tri-five Chevies to 1970 C20s to whatever. Everyone does it, everyone is doing it. Boring"

Which to me would indicate desirability. But a real treat would be a Hurricane swap. If someone comes up with that I'll be selling stuff and raiding savings. Honestly my only issue with the 3.6 is its lack of low end power.
Using quotes allows the recipient to be alerted of the quote and breaks up the post.
 

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Agreed I drive the speed limit. It's fast enough. What always gets me is that dude doing 10 mph faster than you and you end up arriving like 5 minutes faster or they get caught at the same light you do. Really not worth it. Drive the speed limit
A local TV station did some testing and math on the topic a few years ago (probably closer to 20 years ago) when there was a lot of fussing over our laws here.
They literally drove some of the frequent routes people were complaining about as far as speed limits - both at, and above the speed limit (Iowa has a "right to speed" law)
The differences were laughable. Like I tell people - the solution? Stop messing around, get in your car and leave 5 minutes early. Even driving across the state they found not enough difference to justify the griping over the existing limits at that time, but pointed out the injuries, death and damage done................
At the risk of it becoming political because we know it can or will, that's all I say on it.
One can't argue with science, physics, facts and stats over time - I guess some will try, though.
 
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One can't argue with science, physics, facts and stats over time - I guess some will try, though.
The science/physics/facts/ stats over time are simple math. Our desert property is 590mi from our residence. At 70mph it's an 8.5hr drive. At 85mph it's a 7hr drive. Leaving 5 minutes early isn't going to save me an hour and a half each way. I've done both. Maybe 3 hours of time is a laughable difference, but when we make this drive at least 12 times per year that's literally days less spent on the road. That 36hrs saved in one year will literally be the entire time the wife and I have into building our 12'x16' cabin. Feel free to drive the speed limit, just do it in the right lane with the semis.
 

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Depends who you ask
Speed limit nationwide was 55 not that long ago. No one drove 55 enforcement became impossible it was common knowledge you'd not get a ticket as long as you were 65 and under. Then they repealed the misguided nationwide speed limits. So when someone asks do you drive the speed limit it depends where I am and what the speed limit is. Around town and on surface roads yes. On the highways rarely unless I want to get run over.
 

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Anyone ever heard of the 85th percentile?

Worth a search ...........
 

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The science/physics/facts/ stats over time are simple math. Our desert property is 590mi from our residence. At 70mph it's an 8.5hr drive. At 85mph it's a 7hr drive. Leaving 5 minutes early isn't going to save me an hour and a half each way. I've done both. Maybe 3 hours of time is a laughable difference, but when we make this drive at least 12 times per year that's literally days less spent on the road. That 36hrs saved in one year will literally be the entire time the wife and I have into building our 12'x16' cabin. Feel free to drive the speed limit, just do it in the right lane with the semis.
But you are talking much farther distances and larger speed differences than we're being figured back then. Hours are a totally different thing.
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