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@WILDHOBO anything with a gravel floor you'll want good ventilation anyway. At least one open wall or more. It'll end up a moisture trap and rust everything inside. Down here it would, anyway. May be different in the western mountains 😄
And that's why I added a minisplit to my shop............
In some times of year, the condensation literally pooled on the floor.
Books and vinyl seats got mildew and stuff all over them. Undersides of cars rust - they bottoms get covered with rust fast.
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And that's why I added a minisplit to my shop............
In some times of year, the condensation literally pooled on the floor.
Books and vinyl seats got mildew and stuff all over them. Undersides of cars rust - they bottoms get covered with rust fast.
Our plant has that problem on occasion. When the weather gets just right we get terrible condensation on the floor in the production facility. Only happens a handful of times a year.
 

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We recently in the last couple of weeks got a small tractor. Thanks to @ChrisNLA for the sub compact recommendation and review. Trying to decide whether to cover it and all attachments, ir figure something out like an inexpensive enclosure for all of it. I actually like the idea of a shed without a floor. That way I don’t need to care about weight limits.
Mine is sitting on concrete under the carport, but it will eventually be parked on a gravel pad under an open carport. Right now my bucket and forks just sit under an oak tree in the shade, lol. Honestly they would probably be fine for years like that. I plan to pick up some plastic pallets to keep my accessories on, just to keep them off the ground.
 

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Check your loco authorities............. stuff varies a bit, but they get really sticky here.
The only reason I was allowed a 2 story shop building that is 27' from ground to top is because our property slopes so much, the top of my shop sits lower than the top of our ranch style house roof - otherwise, in residential areas, outbuildings cannot exceed the height of the primary residence.

In our case, I was lucky our ground has such a slope to it.
We’re pretty rural. Unless it’s blatant, we can do most things without a problem. It comes down to not pissing off your neighbors. Meaning don’t build something that encroaches on their ability to enjoy their property.
 

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Wonder what the local codes are here.

My buddy bought a house around five years ago on 3 acres, and he built a hodge podge roof with a gravel floor to keep some old projects out of the sun. It's like 32x60 feet 😬 'Walled in' on three sides.

Hurricane Ida hit us pretty direct though and it stayed put - so I say it passed inspection 😂

We're putting up some covered parking next year and I can tell you, it's getting a rock floor and a metal roof (no walls), with or without the parish's input.

When we add the shop on the other side of the house though, that'll be done 'correctly'. It's all about balance, lol.

Speaking of permits, back in 2016 approximately 146,000 houses were flood damaged in our area. I bet the amount of them that were repaired without permits is staggering. Guess that will be a sin everyone pays for at some point. After the flood I went to town hall (itself destroyed by flood) inquiring about what I needed to do before repairing and the response was basically 'get to work and leave a window uncovered so we can peek in'. I guess it's different times though when you can drive for literally miles in any direction and every house is just a mountain of debris in the front yard.

Edit: I'm not saying permits don't have a place. Just telling my experiences of how life has gone 😲

@WILDHOBO anything with a gravel floor you'll want good ventilation anyway. At least one open wall or more. It'll end up a moisture trap and rust everything inside. Down here it would, anyway. May be different in the western mountains 😄
There’s a lot of 75 year old houses around here with gravel and dirt crawl spaces. Even without moisture barriers, they stay super dry. Even if high water tables create temporary moisture, they dry out in days. I used our old crawl space to dry live edge cuts I made. I’d still probably put vents in, but I don’t think I’d need an open door or window.
 

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And that's why I added a minisplit to my shop............
In some times of year, the condensation literally pooled on the floor.
Books and vinyl seats got mildew and stuff all over them. Undersides of cars rust - they bottoms get covered with rust fast.
The humidity is so low here, it’s the opposite. But I was in FL for 19 years, so I get it.
 

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Mine is sitting on concrete under the carport, but it will eventually be parked on a gravel pad under an open carport. Right now my bucket and forks just sit under an oak tree in the shade, lol. Honestly they would probably be fine for years like that. I plan to pick up some plastic pallets to keep my accessories on, just to keep them off the ground.
I’ve got the forks, box blade, and auger on pallets in the yard. Under old bike covers. The back hoe is covered and temporarily on a concrete slab. The cart for it has been ordered and should be here soon. I leave the bucket on the tractor, but lowered onto a 2x6.
 

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There’s a lot of 75 year old houses around here with gravel and dirt crawl spaces. Even without moisture barriers, they stay super dry. Even if high water tables create temporary moisture, they dry out in days. I used our old crawl space to dry live edge cuts I made. I’d still probably put vents in, but I don’t think I’d need an open door or window.
Oh yea, the floor of a house here will rot out from the bottom if you aren't careful. This is an inhospitable place to live 😂
 

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Oh yea, the floor of a house here will rot out from the bottom if you aren't careful. This is an inhospitable place to live 😂
Everywhere is from a different perspective. My hands and feet crack and bleed through winters here. Trade offs either way.
 
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I’ve got the forks, box blade, and auger on pallets in the yard. Under old bike covers. The back hoe is covered and temporarily on a concrete slab. The cart for it has been ordered and should be here soon. I leave the bucket on the tractor, but lowered onto a 2x6.
Yep with all the different things you have one nice covered space would be great.

I park mine without anything on the loader so that it's not a tripping hazard where it's parked, but once I have more space I'll probably leave the forks on all the time. Box blade stays on it for counterweight. Next implement will be a tine rake I think.
 

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Everywhere is from a different perspective. My hands and feet crack and bleed through winters here. Trade offs either way.
I believe it. I had that problem in Atlanta this year. Four days of 15* nights, 40* days, and high winds all in the name of watching the races live. I was dried out and bleeding my first day back at work.

Here in Louisiana it'll be 30* and you'll still catch swamp ass outside working.
 

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Yep with all the different things you have one nice covered space would be great.

I park mine without anything on the loader so that it's not a tripping hazard where it's parked, but once I have more space I'll probably leave the forks on all the time. Box blade stays on it for counterweight. Next implement will be a tine rake I think.
I haven’t used the box blade yet. Fixed a section of the road by back dragging the bucket edge though.
 

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And that's why I added a minisplit to my shop............
In some times of year, the condensation literally pooled on the floor.
Books and vinyl seats got mildew and stuff all over them. Undersides of cars rust - they bottoms get covered with rust fast.
Bill, same reason I built my cabin on 4x4 setting on concrete. Air gap for moisture ventilation, and "not classified" the same as house. I would have needed to build a half a foot of rise in concrete on one side and almost 2ft on other when it rains I can have water running down a inch deep or more.
FYI; I was going to comment on the snow thing, a hour earlier a buddy called me "trying to talk me into a trip up to MO. to go riding ATV's in the snow" another one of my reasons for living in the south, in fact still slightly to far north... in teens last night and tonight. 😳
 

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Bill, same reason I built my cabin on 4x4 setting on concrete. Air gap for moisture ventilation, and "not classified" the same as house. I would have needed to build a half a foot of rise in concrete on one side and almost 2ft on other when it rains I can have water running down a inch deep or more.
FYI; I was going to comment on the snow thing, a hour earlier a buddy called me "trying to talk me into a trip up to MO. to go riding ATV's in the snow" another one of my reasons for living in the south, in fact still slightly to far north... in teens last night and tonight. 😳
For cities here, even a garden shed needs to be on concrete and bolted down - TORNADOs.
But for buildings like mine - EPA stuff, to keep oil and gas out of the soil and streams and rivers and wells.
"cabins" in Maine - elevates to keep them dry and let air flow under them.

Right now, ATVs in the snow - you could really have a blast.
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