Bent Frame

[Rusty PW]

This thread reminds me of a commercial I seen on tv with a bent carrot. Peyronie's Disease. A bent Johnson.

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[InvertedLogic]

If your're curious about the outcome of this Gladiator, it looks like it had the rear frame chopped off, a custom reinforced frame added, and a whole lot of big suspension upgrades on top of that.

Around 7min or so he says something like "we've seen lots of videos of frames bending on these, so we cut it off and made a custom one". I think he saw more than videos of them bending





Finished up the new wrap here





Then wheeled at EJS here





And from what I gathered, blew the motor in Moab.

I dig the attitude, just cut off the bad bit, build it stronger, and keep beating the heck out of it.

 

[XJFanatic]

You never seen Don Thuren jumping his 2500. LOL There is an old video of him out in Glamis.

oh I sure have. Thuren makes some awesome stuff. I had every intention of blowing a bunch of money on his stuff for my third Gen.

Once again he doesn’t do that crap severely overloaded or with 700lbs hanging of the hitch.

So one thing to consider, would this be a problem if we had leaf springs in the rear like most trucks? Weight be supported in front of and behind the rear axle.

 

[Rusty PW]

oh I sure have. Thuren makes some awesome stuff. I had every intention of blowing a bunch of money on his stuff for my third Gen.

Once again he doesn’t do that crap severely overloaded or with 700lbs hanging of the hitch.

So one thing to consider, would this be a problem if we had leaf springs in the rear like most trucks? Weight be supported in front of and behind the rear axle.

The suspension on my Power Wagon had a bunch of his stuff. Springs, 2.5 King shocks, steering linage.

 

[NachoRuby]

So one thing to consider, would this be a problem if we had leaf springs in the rear like most trucks? Weight be supported in front of and behind the rear axle.

F150 raptors have coils on the back now. So do TRXs and Rebels. The new tundra too. I think all "1500s", midsized, and compact trucks will very soon. I'm interested to see what'll be in the new ranger raptor, but I'm betting coils. I sure don't live near the desert, but the number of cases where this has occurred don't lead me to believe this is a major issue.

 

[XJFanatic]

F150 raptors have coils on the back now. So do TRXs and Rebels. The new tundra too. I think all "1500s", midsized, and compact trucks will very soon. I'm interested to see what'll be in the new ranger raptor, but I'm betting coils. I sure don't live near the desert, but the number of cases where this has occurred don't lead me to believe this is a major issue.

Yea i see it going the same way. Just food for thought at popped into my head. At times I really miss the simplicity of leaf springs.

This is not a major issue, just people out there doing stupid things and blaming manufacturer.

 

[Rusty PW]

F150 raptors have coils on the back now. So do TRXs and Rebels. The new tundra too. I think all "1500s", midsized, and compact trucks will very soon. I'm interested to see what'll be in the new ranger raptor, but I'm betting coils. I sure don't live near the desert, but the number of cases where this has occurred don't lead me to believe this is a major issue.

Ram 2500 and some 3500 have coil spring rear's too.

 

[NachoRuby]

Ram 2500 and some 3500 have coil spring rear's too.

I didnt even realize that. Yep, leaf springs are going the way of the dodo.

 

[Hootbro]

sounds like jeep might of had two different frame sub contractors each with a slightly different frame design. Based on the wide spread of replies.

Last I heard, Mobis (Hyundai) North America with a feeder plant to the Toledo Assembly Complex was the only frame manufacturer for both the JL and JT.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I saw this thread listed a while back and thought someone revived one of the older zombie threads about bent frames but no, it's the same thing as before.
Yet another bent frame discussion.
Refer back to the others for the science and math (among other commentary) on how this happens or is possible.

Yea i see it going the same way. Just food for thought at popped into my head. At times I really miss the simplicity of leaf springs.

This is not a major issue, just people out there doing stupid things and blaming manufacturer.

Yes - great summary.


Leaf spring Simplicity until or unless you have too much torque and must go this route to prevent bending springs and messing things up. But then you have chassis twist and have to use frame rail connectors on a car like this.
Or maybe the pinion climbs the ring gear so badly, the springs wrap up and you snap the drive shaft and it whips around in the tunnel ripping out the brake lines............. (I had to replace the brake lines and pound out some nice dents in the floor. Luckily it was the rear of the shaft that let go and not the front - I don't have a safety loop.)

 

[CrazyCooter]

Leaf springs don't automatically equal junk.

Plenty of desert racers are using properly designed leaf springs and get insane travel/ride quality out of them. Coil overs just allow people who don't manufacture for leafs living to make quick changes without the packaging issues. Deaver and Alcan to name a couple do outsanding custom work!

 

[ATL_Rubi]

I'm now more interested in figuring out who has the frame notch, and why. Seems it's a mixed bag.

 

[CrazyCooter]

I'm now more interested in figuring out who has the frame notch, and why. Seems it's a mixed bag.

On a sarcastic joking side.......

Those who have the notch have or have the potential to bend the frame. Those without the notch are immune from the bending.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone.........

 

[Jeepasaurus_Rex]

On a sarcastic joking side.......

Those who have the notch have or have the potential to bend the frame. Those without the notch are immune from the bending.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone.........

I'm going to go look at mine later today. I'm now REALLY curious if my old diesel that I wrecked had a notch or not. I jumped it off the highway to a lower road going real fast (like 75mph) and the frame wasn't bent afterwards LMAO

 

[ecidiego]

September 2021 Mojave....no notch either side.....should I send it?

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