Is the Gladiator at risk for cancellation?

[SteveSD]

Here is an interview with Jim Morrison, Head of Jeep North America by Brad Kowitz (Trailrecon). At 7:38 he gets asked about the future of the Gladiator...

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[ErylFlynn]

Here is an interview with Jim Morrison, Head of Jeep North America by Brad Kowitz (Trailrecon). At 7:38 he gets asked about the future of the Gladiator...

He didn't say anything. He talked electrification which is what is killing Ford. They need to sell the gas trucks for a huge premium to subsidize the losses from the Lightning sales.

 

[SteveSD]

He didn't say anything. He talked electrification which is what is killing Ford. They need to sell the gas trucks for a huge premium to subsidize the losses from the Lightning sales.

I was trying to read into the part about their plan for the gladiator for "the next few years". Having an "electrification option by 2025" doesn't sound like they plans to kill the gladiator.

 

[Geoarch]

I think driving habits come heavily into play. He may be one of those leadfoot types who hammers the throttle everywhere he goes, and does mostly in town driving.

That being said, what has always surprised me is how v6 engines, regardless of the manufacturer, seem to be quite thirsty and offer barely any mpg improvements over the v8s of today, if any, despite lower displacement.

I bought a 2003 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 brand new, and it was an underpowered dog and thirsty as heck for such a small truck. This engine is a vast improvement over that. I think I barely got 17.5 in that thing. I ended up sending it packing after 2 years.

My 2022 JTR gets around 15 in town and nearly 18 on the road if my speed is below 70. My previous 2018 Tacoma TRDPro was about the same. Better clutch though. I didn't buy my Jeep for mph, but the off-road capability.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

He didn't say anything. He talked electrification which is what is killing Ford. They need to sell the gas trucks for a huge premium to subsidize the losses from the Lightning sales.

I blame that on Ford as much as anything else...........

As far as the JT -
The only Wranglers sold in the EU are 4xes. No gassers.
If they want to keep selling Gladiator in foreign markets, at least a hybrid is a must.
EU takes their cues from some locations in the US, I guess.

 

[ErylFlynn]

I blame that on Ford as much as anything else...........

As far as the JT -
The only Wranglers sold in the EU are 4xes. No gassers.
If they want to keep selling Gladiator in foreign markets, at least a hybrid is a must.
EU takes their cues from some locations in the US, I guess.

I am not sure t against them, more against implementation than anything else. Tesla is lowering g prices so we know it can be done. Just highlights the issues many manufactures create for themselves.


I am more of if you build a better product and don't over price it customers will come.

 

[texanjeeper]

Yup. It's fun for what it is but it tries to do too much. It not big enough for big truck stuff, too long for a lot of wheeling stuff, and it's a shit daily compared to anything else. I think that's the great weakness because aside from time in the dirt or the looks, there's zero reason to buy one over a Tacoma... especially now that the Taco has much more power.

So back to Toyota in a 4Runner for a better daily and a YJ to get the buggy treatment for when I want to be stupid. The 5x8 I have fills in the lack of bed and I don't really tow more than that anyway.

Unless...I don't want a twin turbo powering my mid-sized truck.

 

[LostWoods]

Unless...I don't want a twin turbo powering my mid-sized truck.

I don't either which is why I have one each of the two best 4.0L sixes ever made.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

1994 here -

I have a 1996 in a car I'm parting out because I want the 4.0 out of it (along with the transmission and differential which are both worth some $$)

 

[BigRed2020]

Same boat how long does it take?

My 2020 is averaging 18 with winter fuel and idling about 10 minutes each morning before I leave for work… during the summer I was seeing 21-23 on average depending how deep I bury the throttle… lol.
I have 58K miles and for now is all stock…
I’ve seen 25 on a road trip but that was that one time. Same engine in my wife’s ‘21 GC gets 19 all winter and full time AWD and she has a heavy foot and yes I know the gearing is different but still the 8 speed… you can also get into the routine and something like Berryman B12 in your fuel once a month (it’s like $10) to help keep carbon at bay and oil changes, oil changes, oil changes I can’t say it enough and don’t follow the recommended guidelines… I change mine every 4 months and I average about 2K miles in that time. Hope this helps?… Happy wrenching!!

 

[evoarie]

The M190 Dana front is slow to show after market upgrades, last I looked I couldn't find gearing for that front end, un like the M210.

 

[Stan H]

Nope.
I know all about parallax effect with "dial gauges" but that is certainly not it in this case. Further, from the passenger seat, if it was parallax, she'd see me as going under, not over.
It's not very far off the face, plus, in my case I'm looking pretty much directly at the highway speeds.
Nope, mine are just plain off. I knew how to determine if it was mal-adjusted or an effect.
Both have been off the exact same amount.

30-35 mph are almost right in front of me - and the difference can be seen even there. You'd think that looking slightly down I'd see it as 34 and not 36 mph, but it's still high. It's as if the needle was stuck on there off a little bit.
Trust me, 50+ years of driving cars and trucks, most with full gauges of all sorts, including down and to the right, I'd know if this was that.

Lol, I have never checked mine running digital and looking at the needle. I know this gonna sound weird and what not but,...lol I drive by feel more than anything. I might be 5 over or 5 under or 10 over. If the road is curvy I may be under the speed limit somewhat and I never really pay attention to either. May have to look at my just for the heck of it ?

 

[Rocksalt]

IMO
yes... slumping sales... all about the $$$ for companies...

 

[MaxStrategery]

lol. There is no way Jeep is going out of business anytime soon. Only a moron would think that.

With the Tacoma outselling the Gladiator last year 5 to 1 and the 2023s lined up on the lot I drive by every morning I believe this is a valid question.

I bought one last month. I sure hope it isn’t cancelled anytime soon. I enjoy the truck and want the platform supported by as many different aftermarket companies as possible.

Jeep could simply add the 2.5" lift/suspension to every Rubicon, add the 35"/37" option as well and put the trail cam on there as well, They will never have any sitting on a lot very long. Look the new Bison Colorado, ventilated seats, cameras everywhere, big tires big suspension. The solution is easy, dump the entry level boring Gladiators.

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