What did you do TO your Gladiator today? [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS, NO GUN TALK]

[Mopar King]

Im not saying YOU paid too much, Im saying the kit is way too expensive.

I buy Wilwood caliper all the time and that kit should be way cheaper.

I agree, I wish it were cheaper. I actually purchased the Mopar Big Brake Kit ($780) and it was a bust. I checked out the Teraflex kit which might have been OK but it's out of stock nationwide until October or later. The Wilwood kit was the best sure thing option knowing I will be able to stop when I need to.

To your point, there is a lot of variety of Wilwood. You can buy a simple 2 piston caliper for a ton less.....These are oversized 6 piston calipers, with drilled and slotted 14" rotors and new steel braided lines.

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[NC_Overland]

Installed a full size overland wheel as my spare and a steel rubicon bumper.
Anyone who can tell me how the park sensors are supposed to be oriented in this thing I’d really appreciate it.

I’m trying to understand your question. Are you trying to understand what wire goes to what sensor?

did you do a take off bumper from a Rubicon or the Mopar accessory Rubicon steel rear bumper? I guess you added another tow hook but painted it black?

it looks good, I plan on ordering that bumper for my overland. All gladiators should have a steel rear bumper.

 

[iPHoeNiK]

Took the top off and drove to the beach

guy in the background just casually driving a humvee

 

[NC_Overland]

guy in the background just casually driving a humvee

And the other side of me was a sweet Land Cruiser 78 series troop transport inported out of France.

We drove all the way down to the end of the off-road vehicle access to get away from the crowds and those were the only two vehicles down there. That was at Ft Fisher State park just south of Kure Beach.

 

[Artsifrtsi]

Added single Rugged Ridge black cowl lights on Sunday. Super easy, and very bright! Lights up 3 neighborhood blocks!

 

[d k]

try to stay away from drilled rotors whenever possible..

It doesn't do anything except take away mass which is what you need in order to dissipate heat.
Slots are ok.


I am curious as to whats going on with your brakes though? Are your wheels so big that they can't handle the stops?

Is your pedal going soft? Just not stopping?



In the past, I have always started from:

1. new fluid with a high wet boiling point such as Motul or something similar.
2. new brake pads that have MUCH higher friction coefficient (sometimes downside is brake dust).
If that doesnt' work
3. Oversized rotors with a caliper relocation 'kit'.

If that didnt fix it, then there is something crazy going on.

I’m trying to understand your question. Are you trying to understand what wire goes to what sensor?

did you do a take off bumper from a Rubicon or the Mopar accessory Rubicon steel rear bumper? I guess you added another tow hook but painted it black?

it looks good, I plan on ordering that bumper for my overland. All gladiators should have a steel rear bumper.

 

[Mopar King]

try to stay away from drilled rotors whenever possible..

It doesn't do anything except take away mass which is what you need in order to dissipate heat.
Slots are ok.


I am curious as to whats going on with your brakes though? Are your wheels so big that they can't handle the stops?

Is your pedal going soft? Just not stopping?



In the past, I have always started from:

1. new fluid with a high wet boiling point such as Motul or something similar.
2. new brake pads that have MUCH higher friction coefficient (sometimes downside is brake dust).
If that doesnt' work
3. Oversized rotors with a caliper relocation 'kit'.

If that didnt fix it, then there is something crazy going on.

I appreciate the feedback. I have seen some pretty damning evidence to the contrary. Drilled and slotted is the way to go in my opinion. I think its definitely arguable and you make good points though.

The stock brakes are fine, nothing going on that isn't normal. They were designed for 33" tires as a max....stopping with stock wheels and tires was fine. Now I am running 37's at 150 lbs. per hub the brakes are maxed out with no load.

I pull my 12' trailer and 3200 lb. UTV or my 4k lb. boat regularly. The stock brakes just aren't made to handle that load capacity in combination with the wheels and tires.

Its a personal decision, I'd rather spend the money on upgraded brakes rather than an insurance claim.

 

[d k]

The ONLY reason brake rotors were ever drilled was to allow gases to escape from the very early brake pads eons ago.

No race car has drilled rotors since the 60's.

100% about the brakes and insurance claim though.

Drilled and slotted is the way to go in my opinion.

Its a personal decision, I'd rather spend the money on upgraded brakes rather than an insurance claim.

 

[Mopar King]

The ONLY reason brake rotors were ever drilled was to allow gases to escape from the very early brake pads eons ago.

No race car has drilled rotors since the 60's.

100% about the brakes and insurance claim though.

Well, the slotting was originally intended for excess gas but also helps with dust from pad deterioration. The drilled holes are of course for cooling during long periods of heavy braking.

I am driving a Jeep.....although it is supercharged it isn't a race car . Race cars obviously have a bit of a different braking requirement than what a street car or truck is going to need.

I have no doubt in what you are saying, I see the value in both types of rotors but I also very much rely on the fact that if the drilled slotted rotor wasn't providing some added efficiency Wilwood and Brembo wouldn't be selling the majority of their kits like this. At the end of the day the calipers will be the night and day difference, the rotors are just adding some extra grab space.

 

[Delhux]

the slotting was originally intended for excess gas

 

[Mightytalldude]

I add the Mopar sun screen today to help keep it a little cooler on those hot days.

Needs more firewood. Lol

 

[Alan_Hepburn]

I pull my 12' trailer and 3200 lb. UTV or my 4k lb. boat regularly. The stock brakes just aren't made to handle that load capacity in combination with the wheels and tires.

Generally speaking, the brake system on pretty much EVERY vehicle is designed based on the GVWR of the vehicle - that's why it is recommended that trailers have their own brake system.

 

[HikerBob]

Before

After

15% tint on the driver, passenger and rear. 50% on the windshield. Turned out well.

 

[Mopar King]

Generally speaking, the brake system on pretty much EVERY vehicle is designed based on the GVWR of the vehicle - that's why it is recommended that trailers have their own brake system.

Right, with stock wheels and tires.

 

[Gavidoc]

I’m trying to understand your question. Are you trying to understand what wire goes to what sensor?

did you do a take off bumper from a Rubicon or the Mopar accessory Rubicon steel rear bumper? I guess you added another tow hook but painted it black?

it looks good, I plan on ordering that bumper for my overland. All gladiators should have a steel rear bumper.

ive got the sensors installed with no issues. Not sure the orientation of the bezels is correct though. Depending on how they are turned points the sensors in different ways. My sensors work when I’m reversing but doesn’t seem to pick up as far out as they used to.

its a take off bumper not purchased from Mopar.
I ordered the black tow hook so I didn’t need to paint it.

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