2022 Rumors?

[Oilburner]

Can someone explain to me the thrill of 4xe, unless your just super into saving the earth and like electric vehicles? What are the other pros? I personally like my standard engines.

My perception in a nutshell:
1. Electric augmentation of hp/tq
2.~20 mi battery-only range (good for city peoples)
3. Tax break
Recharge the battery each night & you can get inexpensive commute.

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[spectre6000]

Can someone explain to me the thrill of 4xe, unless your just super into saving the earth and like electric vehicles? What are the other pros? I personally like my standard engines.

Fuel economy, torque, and the way the power is delivered. Plus, I think it'd be fun to see how long I could make a tank of gas last. If you live in town and plug in regularly, you could conceivably refill the tank very infrequently. I live up in the mountains, and it'd be interesting to see if I could somehow game it off the terrain.

 

[Jefe1018]

I would not buy a hemi version of the JT, but I sure do hope they make it.

I feel that the Wrangler 392, Gladiator 392 (if they make it), new Bronco (despite their issues with production), TRX, Raptor, etc. are all enthusiast vehicles that may very well be the last of their kind as we enter the future where electric vehicles are the new norm.

Looks like if automakers are looking for one last send off before the new era.

 

[07052021]

Can someone explain to me the thrill of 4xe, unless your just super into saving the earth and like electric vehicles? What are the other pros? I personally like my standard engines.

My perception in a nutshell:
1. Electric augmentation of hp/tq
2.~20 mi battery-only range (good for city peoples)
3. Tax break
Recharge the battery each night & you can get inexpensive commute.

Fuel economy, torque, and the way the power is delivered. Plus, I think it'd be fun to see how long I could make a tank of gas last. If you live in town and plug in regularly, you could conceivably refill the tank very infrequently. I live up in the mountains, and it'd be interesting to see if I could somehow game it off the terrain.

And I would hope that since 4xe was a 2021 addition, there might be small tweaks and improvements for 2022 that only make it better - slightly more range, thinner or higher capacity batteries at the same 2021 size, etc.

I could probably eliminate gas consumption during the week by relying on electric to drive my son to and from daycare every day. I also really like to compete against myself in most miles per tank, mpg, etc. so I this would probably make that more entertaining

I would not buy a hemi version of the JT, but I sure do hope they make it.

I feel that the Wrangler 392, Gladiator 392 (if they make it), new Bronco (despite their issues with production), TRX, Raptor, etc. are all enthusiast vehicles that may very well be the last of their kind as we enter the future where electric vehicles are the new norm.

Like if automakers are looking for one last send off before the new era.

I would buy it..... if I could justify spending 70k on a vehicle.

 

[Jefe1018]

I could probably eliminate gas consumption during the week by relying on electric to drive my son to and from daycare every day. I also really like to compete against myself in most miles per tank, mpg, etc. so I this would probably make that more entertaining

I would be in the same boat, I am 4 miles each way from work and have chargers in the parking lot of my workplace. My employer would almost be paying me for the commute, which is why I understand the 30-ish mile range.

This makes sense to me... in the JL Wrangler. I feel that Gladiator with the same configuration would/will have almost 0 payload capacity though.

 

[869 KPH]

I would be infinitely more excited about a 5.7 Hemi than I would a 6.4.

3.0 - I wanted it, but that engine is getting some spotty reviews under load and isn't available with 4A
3.6 - Probably where I'll end up for simplicity and longevity
4Xe - Undecided
5.7 - Would buy it in a heartbeat for simplicity and longevity, plus more power
6.4 - Would be too expensive and enthusiast focused

 

[Falcor]

Fuel economy, torque, and the way the power is delivered. Plus, I think it'd be fun to see how long I could make a tank of gas last. If you live in town and plug in regularly, you could conceivably refill the tank very infrequently.

This is what I'm looking for. I drive less than 20 miles a day in the little town where I live, and its super flat.

 

[sunrise089]

What happened with Texas Auto Show shippers?

This is me joking around mainly with myself. Several up-thread have circled the show as an announcement window. So many potential announcement times have come and gone that I'm on principle being skeptical of all possibilities. Of course eventually one of the guesses will be right and so it was the Texas Show one then I tip my hat.

What in the lineup is still pending MY22 details?

Grand Cherokee is all new. Renegade has been announced I believe. (Grand) Wagoneer has been announced. We're waiting on JT. I think vanilla Cherokee is the other thing not yet announced, but like you I don't follow that space closely.

 

[sunrise089]

Its has to be option 2, right? They have to be able to replace the battery (and warranty the new battery).

It's really secret option 3: warranty to 100k miles but hope it lasts much longer (warranty duration set as high as Marketing advises it needs to be and as low as otherwise possible to manage downside risk). That's not inconsistent with how gas engines work - warranteed to 60k but we all expect them to last longer.

As for resale, who knows. Early all-electric resales were terrible (see: Nissan Leaf) but the market is evolving so fast and average EV or PHEV fleet age is so low anything could happen. We could see a selection bias where buyers who want EVs all buy new and so the secondary market is depressed, or we could see increased familiarity alongside very real advantages (note: I'm not a big EV guy but I don't want to be myopic here) and have comparable or even higher resale values down the road.

 

[Challenger85]

Can someone explain to me the thrill of 4xe, unless your just super into saving the earth and like electric vehicles? What are the other pros? I personally like my standard engines.

Torque, torque, torque and torque. Did I mention torque?

 

[ShirtlessCubsFan]

Just showed the news to my wife, who is done with my shit, and she said:

Are you married to my wife?! She also is over the Jeep talk and just wants me to shut the f up and get it ordered and done with.

 

[Challenger85]

I would be infinitely more excited about a 5.7 Hemi than I would a 6.4.

3.0 - I wanted it, but that engine is getting some spotty reviews under load and isn't available with 4A
3.6 - Probably where I'll end up for simplicity and longevity
4Xe - Undecided
5.7 - Would buy it in a heartbeat for simplicity and longevity, plus more power
6.4 - Would be too expensive and enthusiast focused

I’m just going to say this…the 5.7 is nothing compared to the 6.4

I had a 6.4 in my Challenger, that engine is insane and the most fun I’ve ever had driving a fast car. Doesn’t matter the RPM, the car just goes hard. I’d be happy with the 5.7L in the Mojave as it’s not a bad engine at all and would be a huge improvement over the 3.6L. But the 6.4 is so much better, the experience between the 2 would be night and day. 80-85 lb-ft torque and 100 horsepower is a lot.

 

[WXman]

Can someone explain to me the thrill of 4xe, unless your just super into saving the earth and like electric vehicles? What are the other pros? I personally like my standard engines.

People have been brainwashed into thinking that if they don't burn fuel, they're saving money.

What they fail to realize is that the overnight charge cost them $0.10 to $0.20 cents per kWh, depending on where they live, and the 4xe gets 1 mile per kWh, so effectively it costs on average $0.15 cents per mile to drive on pure electric mode....and guess what? The diesel version also costs <$0.15 cents per mile to drive.

As far as the earlier comments on GVWR...they already stamp the Rubicon EcoDiesel with a 6450 GVWR which is the highest in the class. To do a 4xe they'd have two choices: stamp it with a 7,000+ lb. GVWR or neuter the payload capacity to just <200 lbs. Neither are likely. So that's why I say it'll be interesting to see IF they do a 4xe and if so, HOW.

 

[Chilli]

Perhaps an over looked consideration for getting an e Gladiator or even the e Hybrid JT is the bed of this pickup truck can carry a lot of battery options.

A driver could go hundreds of miles more before using their Tesla adaptor for recharging.
Or a lengthy round trip before making it back home for their house charging.

 

[ShrimpHappens]

People have been brainwashed into thinking that if they don't burn fuel, they're saving money.

What they fail to realize is that the overnight charge cost them $0.10 to $0.20 cents per kWh, depending on where they live, and the 4xe gets 1 mile per kWh, so effectively it costs on average $0.15 cents per mile to drive on pure electric mode....and guess what? The diesel version also costs <$0.15 cents per mile to drive.

As far as the earlier comments on GVWR...they already stamp the Rubicon EcoDiesel with a 6450 GVWR which is the highest in the class. To do a 4xe they'd have two choices: stamp it with a 7,000+ lb. GVWR or neuter the payload capacity to just <200 lbs. Neither are likely. So that's why I say it'll be interesting to see IF they do a 4xe and if so, HOW.

EPA shows the Wrangler 4xe at about 1.5 miles per kWh, but looking at that "cost to drive 25 miles," it's still a lot closer money-wise than I would've thought.

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=43801&id=43012&id=42951

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