6 Speed Manual Regrets?

[Choatecav]

I'm dealing with my only "regret". I just need a beefier clutch and flywheel for towing and off-roading.

Please keep us posted as you get this installed!!

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[ShirtlessCubsFan]

I'll be ordering a manual Mojave as soon as the 2022 models become available to do so. My JKU (2013, so the 3.6) was a manual. Can I pretty much expect the same feel?

If so, then I'm not worried at all about regretting it.

 

[DanW]

I'll be ordering a manual Mojave as soon as the 2022 models become available to do so. My JKU (2013, so the 3.6) was a manual. Can I pretty much expect the same feel?

If so, then I'm not worried at all about regretting it.

No. The JT's shifting is much smoother. The clutch take-up is shorter, too. I have both a JK and JL with manual transmissions. Love the JK, but it feels much less refined, to me. The Aisin in the JL is much more fun to drive, IMO. The clutch is very different and you'll have to get used to it. But I've had probably 10 to 12 vehicles with manuals and have driven many more and I've not driven two clutches that are exactly alike, so getting used to it is 100% normal.

I'm nearing 52k miles on my 2018 and have loved every minute of it. And I've not babied it. I'd call my driving style vigorous, and when I get on a twisty country road, aggressive. I tow a fishing boat and have also taught two teenagers how to drive a manual on it. No complaints, at all.

 

[Bbannongmu]

Please keep us posted as you get this installed!!

Will do !

 

[Montana_Wildcat]

You will love it even more after breakin!
I found this clutch/manual somewhat challenging initially even with 4:10 axle. The clutch was mushy and off idle torque low and I found myself slipping it to avoid stalling! But after ~2k miles the clutch seemed to bed in. Now at 13k its both light and precise and easy to control. I went from wondering if I made a mistake to OMG this thing rocks!

Good to know! Can't wait. Have about 1100 miles right now.

 

[Litfuse]

I'll be ordering a manual Mojave as soon as the 2022 models become available to do so. My JKU (2013, so the 3.6) was a manual. Can I pretty much expect the same feel?

If so, then I'm not worried at all about regretting it.

No, they both definitely have a different feel from one another. The JK’s manual transmission was clumsy and very truck like. The JL’s manual transmission has a much better feel. However, the gearing in the JK was much much better. The JT gear spacing is horrendous. If you get the manual, be prepared to run the snot out of it. If that doesn’t bother you, go with the manual. If not, the auto is pretty darn good in the JT.

 

[Deleted member 30519]

Some of my M/T observation improvements with new gears vs stock gears are 3rd gear dropping to 1500 rpm w/5.13 gears feels a lot stronger with no bog. It's not something I practice but if I forget to shift it saves my butt sometimes. I've also been starting out in 2nd a lot when I can. I can also crawl in 2nd with no throttle or clutch. The reverse gear was the let down. I back up on an incline gravel driveway and was hoping it would be shorter.

 

[kd1yt]

No regrets at all on 6spd. Had a few initially, because I was wishing that the engine had more low end torque, and I initially found the gear ratios kind of strange. Once I became acclimated to what it is rather than what I'd hoped or assumed, I have come to really like it.
https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...ith-the-manual-transmission.47950/post-776359
Really glad I had the choice to get an MT and really glad I got it.

Recently put Mojave 285/70R17s on it (mine is a Sport S 3.73 axle) and again had a few early moments of ill ease with the behavior, but just re-acclimated (and I think the ECU re-learned). Actually like it better now - I don't "run out of useful first gear" so quickly and the 'sweet spot' MPH levels in 2, 3,4 are better for where and how I drive. I _do_ notice that running 91 octane non-ethanol gas seems to yield better performance with the bigger wheels, compared to 87 octane E10, to a degree that wasn't as evident with the stock 245/75R17 Sport S wheels/tires.

I do think that if I lived and were driving in an area where I frequently had to do a lot of entering and merging into dense, fast, aggressive traffic, I'd want the auto - the 6MT's 1st/2nd ratios/transition are a bit funky to try to launch with max immediate thrust (though maybe a pedal response box may improve that, I hope to find out in the future, hope to get a Banks Pedal Monster at some point). But thankfully I don't drive in that type of habitat, except rarely, and don't expect to.

Being able to choose my gears and have a direct, complete, connection to how the vehicle responds through curves and other driving conditions puts a smile on my face, daily. I wouldn't call it sporty, but maybe 'nimble'

 

[Demetrius]

I'm still pleased with my Sport S manual. A cat back Flowmaster and a Volant CAI really helps by providing the sound and "feel" of where the engine is relative to the clutch. It really is a fun truck for running around town. Since I am usually able to avoid traffic I don't face the issue of clutching and "rowing" in stop and go situations. The manual shift keeps me engaged with the JT.

 

[Gvsukids]

Being able to choose my gears and have a direct, complete, connection to how the vehicle responds through curves and other driving conditions puts a smile on my face, daily. I wouldn't call it sporty, but maybe 'nimble'

I'll just drop my auto into manual mode and shift away?

 

[redriderjf87]

I'm dealing with my only "regret". I just need a beefier clutch and flywheel for towing and off-roading.

I'll just drop my auto into manual mode and shift away?

Good that it works for you, but not equivalent or as direct.

 

[DanW]

Shifting an auto in manual mode compared to shifting a manual transmission is like seeing a picture of a supermodel in a magazine compared to having one sitting on your lap.

 

[syreeves]

Good that it works for you, but not equivalent or as direct.

If your battery is dead you cannot drop your auto into manual mode and start your engine the way you can by popping the clutch in 2nd in a manual.

 

[Mr._Bill]

If your battery is dead you cannot drop your auto into manual mode and start your engine the way you can by popping the clutch in 2nd in a manual.

Does that still work with the computer controlled JL/JT?

 

[DanW]

Does that still work with the computer controlled JL/JT?

It should If ignition is on run.

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