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U don't want them over-full. Foaming.
But if its red and not green, it's not MOPAR HP8 fluid.
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I really dont think this is a trans fluid leak. The color of the fluid is pretty distinctly pink/red in color. So if the trans fluid is green then it has to be the transfer case
There is a heater unit about the size of a baseball up against the transmission that has coolant running through it and which heats the transmission. It is possible to have a seam leak or a failed hose clamp or something there and dripping down.
Have you noticed your coolant level drop at all in the bottle when cold?
 

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You could also level the frame, pull the fill plug to the transfer case and stick your finger in the fill hole of the transfer case and see if it’s way below the bottom of the hole, yes??
 
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There is a heater unit about the size of a baseball up against the transmission that has coolant running through it and which heats the transmission. It is possible to have a seam leak or a failed hose clamp or something there and dripping down.
Have you noticed your coolant level drop at all in the bottle when cold?
so that is a coolant line….. on the drivers side? I did check that and there are no signs of fluid anywhere other than the bottom mating surface of the trans and transfer like in the pic. I dont see any sign of fluid anywhere else.

You could also level the frame, pull the fill plug to the transfer case and stick your finger in the fill hole of the transfer case and see if it’s way below the bottom of the hole, yes??
Yeah i did ask the dealer to check the fluid last time and they said it’s ok so it must be a small leak. I might check it this weekend as well. Its not easy for me to get under there soi try and limit how often i do that
 

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Reviving this thread.

So some months ago, after returning from the second surgery - maybe novemberish?? the dealer replaced the transmission pan and gasket stating that was the source of the leak. I forgot to post an update here it seems.

The following week I went for a drive and inspected when I got home. Guess what. Still leaking. So I did what anyone would do, made another appointment, and went 4 hours out of my way to get it checked. Dealer said they found no leak and it was probably residual fluid. So I asked them to check the fluid levels - all fine they said. I knew They were wrong about the leak because I physically saw it, but went home anyway loosing work time. So when I got home, i crawled under it and cleaned everything REALLY good. The dealer already cleaned it themselves probably with brake clean like everyone does. So it was near spotless. Said to come back if there was fluid on the driveway. Funny because my driver driveway is grass.

The last few months I have been trying to just ignore it being snowy and cold and all. And the last few weeks it has not really been driven much as I am trying to get it ready for summer. But today I decided to go on a nice little 90 mile drive since it was a bluebird day and roads are bone dry. Well after a few hours being home it was eating at me to know what I already knew. So. I went to check and guess what.

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The EXACT same leak since day one. My JT is a 2022 Year. Currently about 6,750 miles. Owned for about 11 months now. Made sometime in Jan of ‘22 I think. I know there was a period of time where the transfer case seal was going bad on these things due to poor install at the factory since plenty of others have discussed it here.

So my question is, has anyone else with a 2022 been experiencing the same issue??? Is this transfer case seal issue related to 2022 years or was that only a 2020/2021 thing?

If this isnt a textbook example of a transfer case input shaft seal leak then Im stumped. Maybe transmission output shaft I suppose is possible.

Anyway looking for input before I contact the dealer for a third time of the same issue. From the last time it sounded like they didnt really want it back unless I could see fluid dripping - which another forum member has said the same thing about their case. But my concern with that is I wont ever know because I dont have concrete to park on. So what, just wait till its out of fluid and blows up? I understand its hard to diagnose when a tech cant see the leak and where it is coming from - been there. So would it be ok for the dealer to put dye in the transfer And check it in a few months with a black light To confirm the source? I did that plenty of times as a tech for Ford for cracked blocks but not sure if Jeep has a ATF stable dye…..


@JeepCares - any suggestions? I only have one dealer within reasonable range and dont need to be making them mad by being ‘temperamental’ but this is an issue - and its not even a year old and hasnt been in any true off road situations. My dealer has been ok thus far but this has me concerned for reliability if I did a long camping trip to a place hours away from signal and in my area there are LOTS of places where getting a tow truck simply is not possible unless you fork out 5K or more…. And I know warranty work does not pay well, and am concerned with keeping good repor with this dealer for the lifetime (20 years?) of this vehicle.


Actually true story, when I had to get my ‘06 TJ towed back to town last year (only 10 miles away) because a local shop forgot, yes forgot, to put axle fluid back in the rear diff and it blew up on the interstate 10 miles outside of town, my insurance wanted to charge me $3,000 to dispatch a tow because the closest option was 200 miles away - they claim to offer free towing lol. Idk how many times I gotta tell people I live in a rural area, and am single with no family near by, so it is a major and significant inconvenience to “just drop it off”. Its crazy that, in Montana of all places, people dont understand this! Asking a coworker to go 4 hours out of their way and take vacation time, for a 3rd time of the same issue, is kinda a big deal - because rentals arent available despite having paid for the premium warranty which is supposed to cover rentals, which I bought specifically for this very reason.


Anyway, frustrations vented, looking for input before calling my dealer.


Also - for Jeep to make the transfer case non-serviceable (very bad design) does anyone have long term reliability concerns? I have a hard time believing it will be easy to just buy a transfer case in another 15 years because its leaking.
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I really dont think this is a trans fluid leak. The color of the fluid is pretty distinctly pink/red in color. So if the trans fluid is green then it has to be the transfer case
If it’s red, then it could be the TC shaft seal issue. I believe that issue was caused by improper matings during assembly of the trans and TC, not a seal issue. Basically, they ruined the seal when mating the two units together by damaging the seal with the output shaft of the transmission.
 
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ns and TC, not a seal issue. Basically, they ruined the seal when mating the two units together by damaging the seal with the output shaft
This is what I have suspected from day one of making this thread just based on other discussions in other threads. I am awaiting a response of jeep cares to my inbox before proceeding to call the dealer. No doubt it will result in needing a new transfer case if the seal is not serviceable. Such a poor poor poor poor poor design..... to make things not serviceable. I would be surprised if it is a coolant leak and I'mnot sure how it could be anyway unless those coolant lines have a way of exiting the rear internals of the transmission - but I will keep an eye on my coolant levels just in case.
 
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So over a week ago I got a quick oil change before the 1,200 mile trip with the veterans group. The shop didnt have time to look at the continual leak between transmission and transfer case. Of course though I can see it still leaking. I have not personally looked at it since the trip but did get in today for a quick check at the dealer and they confirmed there is a leak. Like how I was stating from it being brand new.

So I am reviving this because of a question. I am under the impression based on hearing from lthers that the transfer case seal cannot be serviced and it results in a full transfer case replacement.

However the shop said they want to replace the trans output seal and transfer input seal. The parts department also said those seals are individually available and that the diagram looks as if they are replacable.


I am about to go on a 2,000 mile trip starting tomorrow. So before I order parts wanted to see what folks here know about these seals. I am confident it is the X-fer that is leaking from that known inout shaft seal damage at assembly of some gladiators. Mine is a 2022. I believe built in Feb 2022

I will try and get a photo later today.
 

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Oh no is that yours wifes rig?? Mine is definately a red color like on the first page. Yours seems almost like oil from what my eyes can see.
 

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Did you try retorquing the pan bolts? I had to retorque mine at 6000 miles for the same thing. Now at 46000 miles and still dry.
It went in a few weeks ago and they replaced the pan gasket. It's leaking again although not as badly. I have observed that it doesn't seem to leak much at all when running on battery, seems to be mostly when the engine runs but that makes little sense as the pan is never pressurized at all ever and the engine or motor powering it shouldn't matter.
It's basically the same transmission from the electrics on back

I'll check torque for kicks, though - in the 4xe forums this is a very common complaint.......

I'll have to find the torque specs some place - I have little info on that part of these.
 
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Heres a few pics of mine. It has the same slow seep. But clearly a leak. The question is how much importance do i place on getting it done. The dealer can overnight parts at a $20 cost to me. Or order them for free and who knows how long it will take. Not sure why there is a difference like that

i am still uncertain as to if the seal even can be replaced as others here have stated the entire transfer case must be replaced. Anyone have intel on this?

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