Can I improve the steering/driving experience any more?

[Stan H]

LOL - springs are springs - it's the rate that matters. Spring rate. They put springs in the factory that are matched for the weight of the truck as built. They aren't "cheaper" or lesser springs.


Spacers keep the same factory spring rate.
Spring based lifts lift it in one of two ways - extra height, or, extra spring rate (meaning it takes more weight to compress the spring, so holds the vehicle up higher)
If you want the same "ride", you keep the same rate and use longer springs (like Synergy does for some of their springs)
If you will be adding a lot of weight, then you need springs with a higher rate.

Now - when you say it "drove better" - do you mean the RIDE, or how it steers and handles?

Reason I called them sponges is because the literally collapse constantly and bottom out. Changed to dual rate Tera Flex problem gone.

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[gearhead22]

LOL - springs are springs - it's the rate that matters. Spring rate. They put springs in the factory that are matched for the weight of the truck as built. They aren't "cheaper" or lesser springs.


Spacers keep the same factory spring rate.
Spring based lifts lift it in one of two ways - extra height, or, extra spring rate (meaning it takes more weight to compress the spring, so holds the vehicle up higher)
If you want the same "ride", you keep the same rate and use longer springs (like Synergy does for some of their springs)
If you will be adding a lot of weight, then you need springs with a higher rate.

Now - when you say it "drove better" - do you mean the RIDE, or how it steers and handles?

better as in more compliant and planted on road. None of the feeling that the suspension is moving around underneath me.

 

[Gizmo]

And what changed when you lifted another inch did and linkage angle increase ???.usually going from spacers to springs increases suspension travel which can contribute to bump steer. I run 33-35 psi in the same tires. Too soft of shocks did not help mine , maybe ya need something stiffer to cut down on suspension movement on the street . As I said already the Eibachs did that for me. I guess no one has mentioned HIGH STEER to ya huh

 

[gearhead22]

And what changed when you lifted another inch did and linkage angle increase ???.usually going from spacers to springs increases suspension travel which can contribute to bump steer. I run 33-35 psi in the same tires. Too soft of shocks did not help mine , maybe ya need something stiffer to cut down on suspension movement on the street . As I said already the Eibachs did that for me. I guess no one has mentioned HIGH STEER to ya huh

I’m running bilstein 5100’s.

 

[Gizmo]

They should help as they are at least stiff going slow ……. And

 

[gearhead22]

They should help as they are at least stiff going slow ……. And

It didn’t help over the previous shocks I had.

 

[LZY HIKR]

The two modifications I made that contributed most drastically to ride improvement was a rear track bar relocation bracket, and front control arm relocation brackets. The former takes the shimmy out of the ass end, and the latter improves the control arm angle which has a significant effect on the ride quality.

 

[Gladiatorx2]

I have not had this problem in a Gladiator yet, but 29,000 miles is the most that I have put on one.

I have had a similar problem on both Crown Victoria and Charger Pursuit vehicles though.

If it feels like on an uneven surface, or changing lanes that the vehicle moves (with or without imput) but it seems like the suspension/chassis moves later, then maybe I have. In the case of those vehicle's the bushings in the rear control arms either deteriorate or break. You have control arms on the front as well. Also much more leverage.

I know that I am thinking outside of the box....as well as about a different vehicle, but it is just a thought.

It always felt to me like the suspension was connected by a rubber band.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I have not had this problem in a Gladiator yet, but 29,000 miles is the most that I have put on one.

I have had a similar problem on both Crown Victoria and Charger Pursuit vehicles though.

If it feels like on an uneven surface, or changing lanes that the vehicle moves (with or without imput) but it seems like the suspension/chassis moves later, then maybe I have. In the case of those vehicle's the bushings in the rear control arms either deteriorate or break. You have control arms on the front as well. Also much more leverage.

I know that I am thinking outside of the box....as well as about a different vehicle, but it is just a thought.

It always felt to me like the suspension was connected by a rubber band.

The symptoms I've felt from bad rear control arms bushings is it pulls one way when you're on the gas and pulls the opposite way when you let off the gas.

 

[gearhead22]

The two modifications I made that contributed most drastically to ride improvement was a rear track bar relocation bracket, and front control arm relocation brackets. The former takes the shimmy out of the ass end, and the latter improves the control arm angle which has a significant effect on the ride quality.

I don’t have a rear track bar now

I have not had this problem in a Gladiator yet, but 29,000 miles is the most that I have put on one.

I have had a similar problem on both Crown Victoria and Charger Pursuit vehicles though.

If it feels like on an uneven surface, or changing lanes that the vehicle moves (with or without imput) but it seems like the suspension/chassis moves later, then maybe I have. In the case of those vehicle's the bushings in the rear control arms either deteriorate or break. You have control arms on the front as well. Also much more leverage.

I know that I am thinking outside of the box....as well as about a different vehicle, but it is just a thought.

It always felt to me like the suspension was connected by a rubber band.

control arms are all new.

 

[gearhead22]

I’ve noticed that at highway speeds I don’t feel it really at all which I assume is because such highways are built much better than in town or country roads. Less frost heaving and uneven surfaces. I’ve also noticed that it’s better with my utility trailer behind the jeep even if it’s empty with virtually no younger weight. I assume helps stabilize the Jeep.

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