Dear Jeep - Things I Don't Like

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I found a utube video on it. Buckle seat belt push start with out touching brake. Un buckle and buckle seat belt 5 times push button to off. I didn't know that it disabled the auto start, I only thought it turned the seatbelt chime off. Went out and checked my truck and it appears to also disable the auto start.

This is how I disabled the seatbelt chime. It did not disable stop/start.

I concur - did not disable start/stop when I disabled the seatbelt chime on mine. However, if you haven’t noticed - turning the steering wheel will disable it temporarily without hitting the button. I can not say how hard a turn is required, but I have noticed when I have come to a stop and it does not auto stop that straightening the wheel will stop the engine.

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[Gvsukids]

I concur - did not disable start/stop when I disabled the seatbelt chime on mine. However, if you haven’t noticed - turning the steering wheel will disable it temporarily without hitting the button. I can not say how hard a turn is required, but I have noticed when I have come to a stop and it does not auto stop that straightening the wheel will stop the engine.

I think about half a turn from this video,

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The beast senses the load on the pump - it's needing power to keep the wheel at that position.
I noted that right away when at a stop with a right turn off to the side - if I was turning into that lane to make a right turn, but stopped, it would never shut down. I noted if I was at a stop and changed my mind which lane I wanted to be in or decided to make a turn I wasn't planning on, turning the wheel impacted whether or not the thing would stop or if it would restart. There's sensors all over that thing to detect electrical and other loads. Pretty cool technology - until it goes south like it did on my wife's Jeep GC. Even the rain-sense wipers stopped working about the time ESS stopped working and the battery won't stay up if the thing sits a couple of days.

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

There's sensors all over that thing to detect electrical and other loads. Pretty cool technology - until it goes south like it did on my wife's Jeep GC.

Well, I sure hope the technology is long-lasting, because I intend to keep the thing a looong time.

I drove my Dakota 16 years; now my daughter has it. Come to think of it, the only electronics that went bad was the radio/CD player and the illumination of part of the display.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Well, I sure hope the technology is long-lasting, because I intend to keep the thing a looong time.

I drove my Dakota 16 years; now my daughter has it. Come to think of it, the only electronics that went bad was the radio/CD player and the illumination of part of the display.

I bought this originally thinking, planning, it would be like my Silverado, average about 6800 miles a year - I went 8 and a half years and had only a little over 40,000 miles on it. I figured it would last forever. So I bought the JT figuring the same - gee, less than 7,000 miles a year this thing will last many many years, maybe be my last truck?
Well, over 9,300 miles on it, 9 months old, and my wife is using it today to help one of her friends move to a new house 40 miles away. Who knows how many trips (I think she's the only one there with a truck)
So I'm concerned I'll literally wear it out, have tons of miles on it (still have next year with at least 3 out of state trips to car shows - there will be some miles)
I was thinking it could go 10+ years and only see 50-60,000 miles. HAHAHAHAHA. I expect that after 3 or 4 years tops.
I can't stand used vehicles - I want them to be like new, always - thus, I spend many many days on my cars keeping them up, my Eagle is like brand new inside and out so when this JT starts to show some age - I'll be going nuts.

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

I bought this originally thinking, planning, it would be like my Silverado, average about 6800 miles a year - I went 8 and a half years and had only a little over 40,000 miles on it. I figured it would last forever. . .
So I'm concerned I'll literally wear it out, have tons of miles on it. . .
I was thinking it could go 10+ years and only see 50-60,000 miles. HAHAHAHAHA. I expect that after 3 or 4 years tops.

Well, I put 350,000 miles on the Dakota before I gave it to my daughter. So I don't listen much when people say American-made cars are no good . . .

To be fair, though, I did have to replace the transmission after 11 years, and the engine after 13 years (296,000 miles). The transmission was with a rebuilt one, and the engine with a used one out of a wrecked truck.

I hope to retire in 3 years, after that I won't be racking up so much miles.

 

[rr11]

This is how I disabled the seatbelt chime. It did not disable stop/start.

I did it to turn off the seat belt chime, my auto start has not functioned since. If that did not disable it then I don't know what is going on.

 

[jimbom]

I did it to turn off the seat belt chime, my auto start has not functioned since. If that did not disable it then I don't know what is going on.

Not wearing your seatbelt prevents Autostop, along with 15-20 other conditions.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Well, I put 350,000 miles on the Dakota before I gave it to my daughter. So I don't listen much when people say American-made cars are no good . . .

To be fair, though, I did have to replace the transmission after 11 years, and the engine after 13 years (296,000 miles). The transmission was with a rebuilt one, and the engine with a used one out of a wrecked truck.

I hope to retire in 3 years, after that I won't be racking up so much miles.

I put on miles since retired. Not commuting to/from work, but to/from events, and our other driving, shopping, that used to be done on the way to or from work! Now it's a special trip for any groceries - we used to do that one the way home since we passed multiple stores anyway.

At least with the JT - parts are so very interchangeable a person can get many parts out of a catalog or another Jeep. If I was out of warranty and blew the rear differential - no problem, someone is swapping theirs out and selling the original.

My brother apparently just bought another Jeep - he asked me a question about a sound and some overheating issues - and all I saw was the familiar grill in his video of the sounds. He had it transported in from ME. 123,000 miles, the 4.0. I told him if he has engine troubles let me know as I have a 4.0 sitting here, and a new in the box experimental high performance head for a 4.0 LOL - he could make that thing live forever if he wanted.

 

[jimbom]

I concur - did not disable start/stop when I disabled the seatbelt chime on mine. However, if you haven’t noticed - turning the steering wheel will disable it temporarily without hitting the button. I can not say how hard a turn is required, but I have noticed when I have come to a stop and it does not auto stop that straightening the wheel will stop the engine.

I just keep the clutch pedal depressed. If I know it's going to be a particularly long light, I don't mind saving a few pennies and let it out. This time of year the A/C usually prevents Autostop anyway.

 

[TrainMan]

Tried watching some YouTube videos the other night. The audio and video is waaayyy off. Wtf is with that? I haven't tried using an auio cable yet. Perhaps that will fix the delay?

 

[DocMike]

5000 Miles. Today. First thing I don't like. The little window on the rear doors that does not go down. I have had my top off for 2 weeks now. Windows down. Those stay up and look dumb. I know it would make the door heavier or something. But it bugs me. I keep the doors on because I have littles and I like resting my arm on the door with the window down when I drive.

 

[DreamedofaJeepSomeday]

5000 Miles. Today. First thing I don't like. The little window on the rear doors that does not go down. I have had my top off for 2 weeks now. Windows down. Those stay up and look dumb. I know it would make the door heavier or something.

Weight is not the reason. Look at the geometry of the rear doors. There is nowhere for the back part of the windows to go down. On other cars with similar door shape, where the whole window goes down, it does not go all the way down.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Weight is not the reason. Look at the geometry of the rear doors. There is nowhere for the back part of the windows to go down. On other cars with similar door shape, where the whole window goes down, it does not go all the way down.

EXACTLY!
It's space in the door - room for not just the glass, but the regulator mechanism.
Nothing to do with weight - it's to do with space.
Yeah, some go down all the way, some part way, some not at all, depending on the space in that particular vehicle.
There has to be space for the regulator, and the channels that guide the glass. In some cases the glass rides on a single "post" in the door in the middle of the glass - that design sucks. I hate working on those, they always wear or go bad.

 

[DocMike]

I get you. I know why they went with that door shape too. Cheaper manufacturing, easier access to parts later... But in 5000 that is the only thing that bugs the crap out of me.
Other than that I love it.

Weight is not the reason. Look at the geometry of the rear doors. There is nowhere for the back part of the windows to go down. On other cars with similar door shape, where the whole window goes down, it does not go all the way down.

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