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Damn...

There's no, "Dislike," button...

So if you have to scroll through a warning on the dash, why not just push the ESS Off button instead? Then you don't get the warning, no A!-alert, and the ESS is off.

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Yeah it absolutely amazes me that 3 years later, there are still people bi*ching about the time it takes to make a SINGLE button press. Sigh....

The hood pins are there for a purpose. Don't disable equipment on your Jeep just because you don't want to press a button. C'mon man....
 

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Just get a auto stop eliminator, I got one in mine, pressed it once never worried about it again. The part remembers what I had it in last.
 

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How ironic that a thread with a title "Enough about ESS!" goes on for 3 pages already.

Obviously, the myriad of other threads on the subject still have not beaten this subject to death yet.

What are the odds this will be the last one?
 

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How ironic that a thread with a title "Enough about ESS!" goes on for 3 pages already.

Obviously, the myriad of other threads on the subject still have not beaten this subject to death yet.

What are the odds this will be the last one?
It will go on for at least 2 more pages. It's not a fix, it's a hack, and who knows what the other consequences are. Switches can have other functions unless the OP has looked through the schematics to ensure THAT switch serves NO other function - even in an accident.

And like some others - I don't get the big deal. It's all but standard with other companies, Ford and GM are jointly developing transmissions and other goodies to integrate this even farther.
So there's a shudder? So? Unless you RACE this or are an overly aggressive driver having to beat the next guy to the next light or force ahead when your lane ends, I bet it makes no difference in the ET from one light to the next.
By the time my foot hits the gas from the brake it's running and read to go.
Manuals are different, I KNOW that, but still...........
There are solutions - let's see - one remembers to push the start button, most remember to buckle a belt, and many connect their phones, get their tunes set and ready, etc. but can't push one bloody button?
It's scary to think - what ELSE have they not done before they put it in gear and go?
 

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There's an even easier "fix" for ESS, at least when heat isn't required. I leave my Climate Control temperature setting on "Lo", and ESS is never enabled.
 

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I deleted all the ESS wiring. I bought an extra harness to pull apart without having to cut up my stock harness. You can unwrap all of the harness and pull out the wires you need. I wanted to make sure everything was functioning properly before cleaning up all the wiring. This also fixed random codes that used to pop up as well. I am going to clean up the wiring now that everything has been trouble free.
 

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I was worried about it while researching. Now that I have my Jeep, I've noticed that it barely functions in the 6-speed. You have to completely release the clutch while stopped, and I rarely ever do that....basically while waiting for a train to go by or something like that.
 

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I'm just going to troll. I like the feature don't understand the hate. It's really nice with a manual. If i don't want it to go just hold the clutch.
 

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I might be old but I can learn new tricks. Press Start, ESS Disable, set climate controls, adjust sound system. 10 seconds later at most, after scanning the indicators, warning lights and especially oil pressure, I am ready to go. No muss, fuss or grumbling and I get to move on to more importanat things. Just my 2c and prolly not worth a hill of beans.
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This.
 

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I deleted all the ESS wiring. I bought an extra harness to pull apart without having to cut up my stock harness. You can unwrap all of the harness and pull out the wires you need. I wanted to make sure everything was functioning properly before cleaning up all the wiring. This also fixed random codes that used to pop up as well. I am going to clean up the wiring now that everything has been trouble free.
Removing the ESS battery doesn't disable auto stop/start, it will still kick in 6 times per power cycle before detecting an issue and shutting off.

Also for anyone interested in eliminating the ESS battery cables, I think (but havent verified) that the factory e-torque battery cable harness might be an option. E-torque systems don't have the ESS battery.
 

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There is a dash switch to disable it. Why mess with the hood? Or maybe that is only on the M6?
Our diesel auto also has an ESS disable button. Not just an M6 thing.
 

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Our diesel auto also has an ESS disable button. Not just an M6 thing.
It's on all Jeeps as far as I know....... I believe even the grand cherokee. It's certainly on all Gladiators - all of 'em.
 

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1 more button push sucks. Almost defeats the point of keyless start. I dont want a multistep process for driving off. Disabling ess is the #2 reason i got a tazer after adjusting tire size.

So, of course its no big deal to always have to press an extra button every time you start the car, but this is an unnecessary feature forced upon us...a lot like automatic updates.

Microsoft gives you the option to diable it but makes it a pain the ass to do so and nags you when you do....why? Its my effing computer. Ill set it up how i want!

all they had to do was make ther ess on/off button rememberyour choice.
 

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1 more button push sucks. Almost defeats the point of keyless start. I dont want a multistep process for driving off. Disabling ess is the #2 reason i got a tazer after adjusting tire size.

So, of course its no big deal to always have to press an extra button every time you start the car, but this is an unnecessary feature forced upon us...a lot like automatic updates.

Microsoft gives you the option to diable it but makes it a pain the ass to do so and nags you when you do....why? Its my effing computer. Ill set it up how i want!

all they had to do was make ther ess on/off button rememberyour choice.
Can't do that. Auto makers can't give the built-in ability to defeat it.

So many people haven't ever driven older vehicles or grown up with a lived with no PS, no PB, no AC, no power windows, no power locks, manual everything.

There's also a reason Microsoft does what they do......... I worked as an IT specialist for years - those in IT know.
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