Oscar Indy
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Yes, I concur same spot as the cigarette lighter:From what I've seen, the controller knob replaces the 12v cigarette lighter socket.
One thing to note is that most of the ones that show the gain in the dash have a very simple set of controls (usually a level for manually applying the brakes and a +/- to adjust the level) and show the gain in the display because the controller itself isn't show it. The one shown in the Jeep page is like the Redarc where the knob has the gain settings on it. I may ultimately be wrong, but my guess is that it's not integrated like the ones that show in the dash, but rather ends up being something like the Redarc in that it's plug and play.Oddly enough, the place the dealer sends trucks to for modifications and brake controllers and such has never seen the type that people HERE have installed! I showed a pic of one of those round type that looks similar to the factory picture of their controller - "never seen one like that, who makes that?"
Here's the rest of their message - rather interesting to say the least - yes, they say they HAVE done Jeep and RAM truck brake controllers -
The factory one that I have used display in the digital display in the dash and show the brake gain and setting when trailer is attached . Have you got ahold of the factory controllers part # and checked to see if you can obtain it elsewhere. The thing is when they install the factory ones I believe some in the Jeep computer has to be set to make it function
Well your thoughts make sense........ thanks.One thing to note is that most of the ones that show the gain in the dash have a very simple set of controls (usually a level for manually applying the brakes and a +/- to adjust the level) and show the gain in the display because the controller itself isn't show it. The one shown in the Jeep page is like the Redarc where the knob has the gain settings on it. I may ultimately be wrong, but my guess is that it's not integrated like the ones that show in the dash, but rather ends up being something like the Redarc in that it's plug and play.
I still reserve the right to be wrong, wouldn't be the first time.Well your thoughts make sense........ thanks.
At this point with all the delays they could have scrapped 4 different designs and had several different vendors making it. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jeep one ends up being a rebranded Redarc or Curt one.I still reserve the right to be wrong, wouldn't be the first time.
It's also part of the possibility of the delay is a complete different design than what they showed before, but I just don't know how they would do that and integrate it with the dash. The fact that the order books keep saying that smoker's group is unavailable with brake controller leads me to believe they are sticking with that setup, but who knows.
So I took my S10 out to the Jeep yesterday night running the app Ampre and was able to determine that the USB-C ports are not really any good.I'm with @ShadowsPapa in that I never use the 12V outlet for anything these days, so losing it wasn't a big deal. As for the amount of wire, it probably would require lengthening it to move it too far. There was a enough to easily pull the dash out and unplug it, but there wasn't tons past that. If you didn't want to hack up the factory wiring, you could probably use the Quadratec 12V tap they make sinc eit goes in-between the outlet and dash harness, and cut/extend the wires on it to relocate it.
I think we talked about the Switch before, but my oldest has a brick for his he plugs into the 110 outlet on the back of the console, so it hasn't been a problem. You now have me wondering if I could make an extension harness and relocate the 12V outlet to the back of the console for the rear seat passengers. Probably not something high up my priority list. I still haven't tried plugging his Switch into the UBS-C outlets on the back of the console to see if they put out enough power to keep up.
Interesting testing and results for sure, thanks for looking into that. One question I had was for the rear console port, did you try the set marked USB that will talk to the radio, or the set marked with the charging symbol that does charging only? Just curious, either way those aren't great numbers and I might look into something for road trips.So I took my S10 out to the Jeep yesterday night running the app Ampre and was able to determine that the USB-C ports are not really any good.
I got only around 820mA with a one time peak of 1000 out of the front USB-C port
I got 1310mA out of the console type-A port with a short peak of 1499
I got 1240 out of the front type-A port
I thought maybe the S10 isn't the best way to do this so I also tried my Prius with a 12 volt 45watt adapter using an identical type C cable and got a minimum charge of 2320 with a max of 2720. Needless to say I will be at least relocating that 12volt port based on these tests. Based on what I am seeing I don't even think the type-c ports even support the PD standard let alone something like qualcom quickcharge 3.0
I forgot to test that rear one. I will test that one out tonight when my phone is down to 50%. Also just to rule out the weirdness of some USB-C cables I am going to bring my full 10Gbps cable out and test that as well just to make sure (even though the charging pins don't change). Even though the one I used has charged laptops before.Interesting testing and results for sure, thanks for looking into that. One question I had was for the rear console port, did you try the set marked USB that will talk to the radio, or the set marked with the charging symbol that does charging only? Just curious, either way those aren't great numbers and I might look into something for road trips.