How does an expert break in a new engine..

[smlobx]

I know that several of you watch Lake Speeds videos but for those that haven’t heard of him yet here’s how he is breaking in a new Tacoma with a turbocharged 4 cylinder engine… worth a watch.

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[Hootbro]

Good video. Going to twist a few panties here I am sure.

 

[Mr._Bill]

What does he have to add that hasn't been covered already in fifty other threads?

And what relevance is the break-in of an engine not available in the JT?

The proper break-in procedure is the one outlined in the owners manual.

 

[Vincent]

 

[smlobx]

What does he have to add that hasn't been covered already in fifty other threads?

And what relevance is the break-in of an engine not available in the JT?

The proper break-in procedure is the one outlined in the owners manual.

If you bothered to view the video you would see that he goes into detail why the owners manual (any owners manual) is a start but letting the oil analysis data dictate the OCI’s is a better way to promote the longevity of your engine…

 

[Maximus Gladius]

Last point he made I’ve been trying to hit home here… “follow the data” and the only clear scientific way to do that is through the lab.

 

[Mr._Bill]

If you bothered to view the video you would see that he goes into detail why the owners manual (any owners manual) is a start but letting the oil analysis data dictate the OCI’s is a better way to promote the longevity of your engine…

Oil Analysis cost money, and just gives an indicator of current condition. The data will provide clues to change more often, use a different brand Oil, or to trade it in for a new one.

My first JT went 60k miles on dealer Oil changes. It ran great and was very quiet when traded in. The second one is at 16k miles on dealer Oil changes. It runs great and is very quiet.

There is no Silver Bullet for making the engine last longer. Regular oil changes are the best course of action.

 

[DiehardTory]

Good video. Going to twist a few panties here I am sure.

Hell, drive it like you stole it.. My procedure is RED LINE 1st 2nd as soon as possible leaving the dealership... It'll blow or go while in the warranty !

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Last point he made I’ve been trying to hit home here… “follow the data” and the only clear scientific way to do that is through the lab.

If you're following data?

How do you incorporate the fact that the factory starts them, does some limited diag while they idle, and drives them out into a yard where they sit 2-3 days to get started, driven onto transport over the course of 12-48 hours, thed started, driven into a back lot, sit for 2-3 days, then started, pulled in and prepped, back to a lot to sit, until they get beaten on test drives?

After they find their forever 3-4 year home, they're driven 2-3 weeks past the oil change light indicator going, then pulled in for the cheapest Groupon Jiffy lube oil change.

 

[Maximus Gladius]

If you're following data?

How do you incorporate the fact that the factory starts them, does some limited diag while they idle, and drives them out into a yard where they sit 2-3 days to get started, driven onto transport over the course of 12-48 hours, thed started, driven into a back lot, sit for 2-3 days, then started, pulled in and prepped, back to a lot to sit, until they get beaten on test drives?

After they find their forever 3-4 year home, they're driven 2-3 weeks past the oil change light indicator going, then pulled in for the cheapest Groupon Jiffy lube oil change.

The “data” to follow are the wear numbers the lab shows you in the report and I try to make the best maintenance decisions that would ideally trend the numbers down. I don’t incorporate the other facts you mentioned. I take what I’m given and try to do a better job and hope for the best.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I'm fully aware that people don't let reality interrupt their whacky 5 part data analysis that justifies to them whatever silliness they decide they need.

And it's a free country. You do you, and tell yourself whatever you need to sleep at night.

But don't try to tell everyone else they have to, or that your way is better, with no quantifiable data that it's better.

If 99.9999% of vehicles simply being driven, forever, with indifferent maintenance, results in almost none of them having bottom end engine failures during the life of the owners stewardship, having a lower "wear" number is absolutely meaningless.

 

[Squashead]

I know that several of you watch Lake Speeds videos but for those that haven’t heard of him yet here’s how he is breaking in a new Tacoma with a turbocharged 4 cylinder engine… worth a watch.

I'll take it from here:

How dare he post that. He must think he is smarter than the engineers!

How dare you reference it! You must think you are smarter or Lake is smarter or someone is smarter!

Doesn't everyone know that because automotive engineers are the smartest people and their decisions are made via pure infallible intellect that the best solution in every case is always what they write in the manual??? There can be no better way. Change anything else about your jeep, (the engineers that came up with that other stuff are not as smart) but when it comes to oil, submit to their superiority and stop thinking. Any other way will be wasting money and as we all know, jeep owners NEVER waste money!

 

[Maximus Gladius]

I'm fully aware that people don't let reality interrupt their whacky 5 part data analysis that justifies to them whatever silliness they decide they need.

And it's a free country. You do you, and tell yourself whatever you need to sleep at night.

But don't try to tell everyone else they have to, or that your way is better, with no quantifiable data that it's better.

If 99.9999% of vehicles simply being driven, forever, with indifferent maintenance, results in almost none of them having bottom end engine failures during the life of the owners stewardship, having a lower "wear" number is absolutely meaningless.

Ya, I think “telling people they have too” is too strong and not right. I think going after this kind of data is only for people that need to see the extra data points. It’s only in the make-up of that particular person, OCD spectrum types where details mater. Of course, not everyone falls into that category, I definitely do. If you want further info, lab reports is how you get it. If you’re in the crowd that doesn’t care, you dismiss it. Dismissing this lab data doesn’t mean it’s bunk and the need to have this data doesn’t mean not caring about that part, is doing your vehicle wrong. Everybody wins.

We are about to find out today what all my oil analysis reports have done and mean to my insurance company appraiser who is showing up to “write off” or “fix” my truck. If it’s written off, he has to appraise its value. The burning question we’re about to find out is…

Do my reports show a level of absolute proof of doing my own maintenance and does this level of maintenance add value?

I’ll post his answer later. If it doesn’t, then it’s an individual’s choice to be guided by it, if it adds value, then …. take it or leave it. I can tell you this angle has never been asked.

 

[smlobx]

Not only is it appraised value but many of us, me included, tend to keep our vehicles long after the warranty is up. At that point it comes out of my pocket so a little preventative maintenance goes a long way. I used the same philosophy in my construction business where our equipment was worth well over $1 million.

 

[JTdiRtyD]

I'd like to see what type of average lifespan people see that just do normal prevanttive maintenance at the manufacture recommended intervals and drive it like 95% or owners do, vs those that get nitpicky about oil types, run oil analysis every change, run shorter intervals, etc.

I'd bet there isn't much of a difference, if any.

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