I Want Auto High Beams

[ShadowsPapa]

I'm attempting to get this working on my Overland. It has Forward Collision Control, so I would hope that it's possible.

Anyone with it working from the factory and an OBD tool like JScan care to share what values are set for theirs? In particular, I'm not sure what to set for "Auto High Beam Location" in JScan. Possible values are "ECC_AHBM", "CRVMM", "HALF", "Reserved" and "Reserved". There's also a setting for "ECC AHBM Present On/Off". Or if you could shed some light on what the values mean?

Thanks in advance.

You must have the sensor - these don't have that. It's not just a setting or software.
there has to be the wiring and sensing electronics to trigger it.
Auto high-beams are light sensing while collision avoidance is not light sensing, it works on other criteria.

It's not even an option on these - and it's an optional package on the Grand Cherokee - not even automatically included on a GC. Very doubtful if you have to pay extra to get that package on a luxury SUV that it's going to be just thrown in with a truck...........
My dealer even told me "not available" when my wife asked it I could get it on my truck.

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[GladFox]

You must have the sensor - these don't have that. It's not just a setting or software.
there has to be the wiring and sensing electronics to trigger it.
Auto high-beams are light sensing while collision avoidance is not light sensing, it works on other criteria.

It's not even an option on these - and it's an optional package on the Grand Cherokee - not even automatically included on a GC. Very doubtful if you have to pay extra to get that package on a luxury SUV that it's going to be just thrown in with a truck...........
My dealer even told me "not available" when my wife asked it I could get it on my truck.

Dealers say a lot of crap that’s not true.
There’s evidence in this thread that it is an option.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/auto-high-beam-head-lamp-controls.31793/page-2

 

[Stonesolo]

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[ShadowsPapa]

Dealers say a lot of crap that’s not true.
There’s evidence in this thread that it is an option.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/auto-high-beam-head-lamp-controls.31793/page-2

I saw the screen - the dealer and I sat almost side-by-side as we went through the options and looked at each package on his order screen (not the Jeep dot come which is often wrong anyway). It was not there last Oct. In fact, it wasn't even in the Grand Cherokee in 2018.

I have the Overland with every other option besides the passive entry - I have ACC, collision detection/active braking, BSM, LED light package, you name it - there was no auto headlight dimming including in any of the packages at that time or as a stand-alone option.
It would have likely been be part of a safety group, convenience group, light group, etc.

 

[Riccochet]

After have used auto high beams for the past 3 years I'm really not impressed. At least not with FCA's implementation of it.

I'd say about half the time it doesn't turn the highs off when traffic is coming the other way. Then it'll turn them off when it senses someone's driveway light, or any light off the side of the road, even though the road is pitch black. Or, the high beams simply don't turn on at all when I want them to. I tow my boat a lot at 3-5 in the morning, country roads. It got to be so frustrating that I turned the option off.

 

[Mr._Bill]

We had the Auto High Beam option on a 1964 Lincoln when I was very young. They had to tape a metal slug over the end of the sensor on the dash to keep manual control. The sensors are much smaller now, but I'm not sure the function is any better. With the LED headlights, high beams are rarely needed around here, for me. Late night travel in the middle of nowhere is the only time I've been able to use them.

 

[jwilson2899]

I saw the screen - the dealer and I sat almost side-by-side as we went through the options and looked at each package on his order screen (not the Jeep dot come which is often wrong anyway). It was not there last Oct. In fact, it wasn't even in the Grand Cherokee in 2018.

I have the Overland with every other option besides the passive entry - I have ACC, collision detection/active braking, BSM, LED light package, you name it - there was no auto headlight dimming including in any of the packages at that time or as a stand-alone option.
It would have likely been be part of a safety group, convenience group, light group, etc.

Apparently it was a late availability that starting appearing sometime in December builds. There’s a couple threads on here where people have shown the newer built trucks include it. I would love to be able to turn it on it software if possible.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Apparently it was a late availability that starting appearing sometime in December builds. There’s a couple threads on here where people have shown the newer built trucks include it. I would love to be able to turn it on it software if possible.

Yes - and that's the reason I hate blanket statements "it was an option, your dealer was an idiot" or something like that. There have been numerous posts about how "xx was an option, just enable it" - and they are looking at a March 2020 build and assuming ALL from day one had that.
A lot of things have changed over the course of the 2020 model year so to assume that because you have this or that it's going to be there isn't wise. Even colors changed, hard top options, fender options, limited slip in models other than Overland changed - that's another thing "yes, you could have gotten it" - no, you could not in 2019.
Auto makers have always done that to us - ask the owner of a 1964 1/2 Mustang................or car enthusiasts and restorers or mechanics. Heck, the part numbers for u-joints changed sometimes more than once a model year in some makes and models.

If I could turn that on in mine I'd do it in a heart beat. It's not there.
My wife even asked if we could get that and some other stuff- nope, not there.
When we ordered her new GC from Spencer she insisted we make SURE the rain sense wipers were there and the auto-headlight dim was there.
She really wanted those on this JT.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Requires forward camera to DETECT LIGHT. FCC and ACC only detect things, not light.

 

[Clay]

I didn't know my Overland had it until I got off the interstate, at night, and was driving on a two lane road. A vehicle came around a curve and my lights dimmed before I had a chance to do it. First time to have auto dimming lights and I like them.

 

[GladFox]

I didn't know my Overland had it until I got off the interstate, at night, and was driving on a two lane road. A vehicle came around a curve and my lights dimmed before I had a chance to do it. First time to have auto dimming lights and I like them.

Sweet. Do you have JScan? I’d love to find out what the settings are. Also, could you post a pic of the windshield side of your ACC box?

 

[Clay]

Sweet. Do you have JScan? I’d love to find out what the settings are. Also, could you post a pic of the windshield side of your ACC box?

I don't have JScan.

I lightened it up some.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I didn't know my Overland had it until I got off the interstate, at night, and was driving on a two lane road. A vehicle came around a curve and my lights dimmed before I had a chance to do it. First time to have auto dimming lights and I like them.

Show me on your build sheet. (you have a build sheet- simply plug your VIN into the site listed in this forum where folks track their builds - I got one for my 2004 WJ from this site!!)

It absolutely wasn't available in 2019 for the 2020s. It wasn't listed, was NOT available. We even watched as we dug through the details on the dealer order screen.

(Those pics look more like the FUSE/RELAY panel, not the ACC box on the windshield. )

 

[TYJ]

I don’t think you do want auto high beams... if they suck as bad as my 2020 Ram 1500 Laramie’s auto high beams.

I’m really disappointed with how many false oncoming lights (mostly reflections of my headlights on street signs) throw my high beams down to low beams all the time. I finally went into settings and shut auto high beams off.

All of this to say... my 2018 Audi Q5 rarely ever did this. If FCA’s auto high beams worked as well as Audi’s, I’d be all for it. Loved that feature... on the Audi!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I don’t think you do want auto high beams... if they suck as bad as my 2020 Ram 1500 Laramie’s auto high beams.

I’m really disappointed with how many false oncoming lights (mostly reflections of my headlights on street signs) throw my high beams down to low beams all the time. I finally went into settings and shut auto high beams off.

All of this to say... my 2018 Audi Q5 rarely ever did this. If FCA’s auto high beams worked as well as Audi’s, I’d be all for it. Loved that feature... on the Audi!

My son had them on his Compass - they worked fine except that street lights and certain other things triggered them. He liked and used them. My wife wanted them so we got that on her new GC.
I want them on my JT - here, the roads are hilly and winding and I'll wear out the dimmer switch flipping back and forth. You must run high beam as much as possible as the woods and tall grass come right to the road, and again, the hills and curves - deer, cows once in a while get onto the road, big animals like dogs and so on.
But there's so much traffic, spaced just wrong - highs for a few seconds, oops, here comes a car - low beam, car gone, back to high for 30 seconds, here comes another car, back to low. Seriously, I bet we flip between high and low at least 10 times or more just onthe final 7 or 8 miles home.
It's a rural hilly area and some roads have a lot of curves. A lot of wooded areas. Out-of-staters have even commented "I've never seen a place with so many trees everywhere, even in your towns:"

They worked fine on my son's Compass. We'll see on my wife's new GC.
If I can get them, I want them - even if for just once in a while.
I've had to replace the dimmer switches on at least two of my cars.......

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