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I know this isn't the first bypass install but I took a little different approach so I am creating a new thread.

I didn't like the oil filter supply tap so I decided on the pressure sender tap. This is a cleaner install IMHO. However, the elbow fitting included with the tap kit doesn't fit within the available space. Based on the photos in their install guide, the housing must be different in the Ram.

I ordered a 1/8 npt to 6an adapter to tee off the oil sender adapter (shown below). My fitting should be on Tuesday, and I will update the this thread as soon as I finish.

I have onboard air with a tank on the driver side, this prevented me from installing the bypass filter where I wanted. I used a Moroso 23920 accumulator mount to hold the bypass filter and bolted the mount to the frame. I tapped the frame and mounted with M6 bolts. The oil filter sits higher than the fuel filter skid plate but I realize it may be too exposed for some people. For my purposes, it is suitable.

I was initially concerned about the wall thickness of the frame but I think it will be fine. I ran the 6AN oil lines along the brake lines to the engine bay.

Ultimately, I plan to add a heat exchanger but I haven't developed a firm plan yet. Since I have the Mojave hood, I am tempted to put a small exchanger on the underside of the hood, but until I collect data to understand the airflow, I won't do that.

I'll add more photos as I continue the process.


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Interested in your findings and long term review. Mainly:
- cost of the filter vs OEM to keep better filtration
- reliability connections after fair amount offroad / vibrations etc. I heard catastrophic failures due to fittings or hose getting loose and engine seizing after the oil dumped on the ground
- oil samples? Which interval is really ok to change oil. This goes into the equation with point one with overall cost over time.

Thanks for the share
 

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Absolutely following this thread. Thank you for taking lead.
 

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I wish you luck. Hopefully ID improved the design of the by-pass filter housing.

My description of the ID system I just sold on this forum.

“Full disclosure. This system worked as advertised from ID with one exception. I live at elevation, in the mountains of central New Mexico. I’ve experienced 2 major oil leaks from the bypass oil filter housing. This happened at the beginning of winter last year and this year. Only at the first freeze of each (20 degrees). After RE Torque of the housing it would not happen again. The RE Torque would only work if done @ the 20* temperature before warming up the engine. No leaks occurred after the first freeze RE Torque. Made it through the first winter. Changed bypass filter during the summer. First freeze. Leaked again. I got upset. Removed the system.
Obviously, I only recommend for vehicles in warmer climates that will not see temperatures near freezing.”

Otherwise it worked great. From what more experienced people said “My oil analysis was one of the best”. I only did one.

I have posted many times on this forum. All positive, except for the last post.
 
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I wish you luck. Hopefully ID improved the design of the by-pass filter housing.

My description of the ID system I just sold on this forum.

“Full disclosure. This system worked as advertised from ID with one exception. I live at elevation, in the mountains of central New Mexico. I’ve experienced 2 major oil leaks from the bypass oil filter housing. This happened at the beginning of winter last year and this year. Only at the first freeze of each (20 degrees). After RE Torque of the housing it would not happen again. The RE Torque would only work if done @ the 20* temperature before warming up the engine. No leaks occurred after the first freeze RE Torque. Made it through the first winter. Changed bypass filter during the summer. First freeze. Leaked again. I got upset. Removed the system.
Obviously, I only recommend for vehicles in warmer climates that will not see temperatures near freezing.”

Otherwise it worked great. From what more experienced people said “My oil analysis was one of the best”. I only did one.

I have posted many times on this forum. All positive, except for the last post.
Was your leak occurring with the OEM/Insane filter housing or the Insane microfilter housing?
 

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I completed the installation. The installation required more 6 an hose and a 1/8" NPT to 6 AN fitting for the pressure sender tap. The system functions without leaking (so far). I don't expect leaking from the pressure sender tap or hose ends since these are all standard "NPT" or "AN" hardware.

I used about 6' of hose for each of the feed and return. If the filter was closer to the engine, I wouldn't have required more hose. I ended up using about 2 additional quarts of oil.

Oil sender tap fitting with 1/8" NPT x 6AN fitting
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Was your leak occurring with the OEM/Insane filter housing or the Insane microfilter housing?
ID bypass/micro-filter housing. The O-ring gasket.
 
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So @DC3 - did this ultimately end up getting a radiator as well? Difference in performance?
 
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So @DC3 - did this ultimately end up getting a radiator as well? Difference in performance?
I did install the oil cooler from Insane Diesel. I have found the oil to run much cooler. In normal driving, the oil runs 2 - 7 degrees hotter than the coolant. It's as much as 15 degrees hotter when I'm pushing the truck in hot weather. Since installing the cooler, I have not experienced power derating, and temp recovery is much faster.

Here are some photos, the first two show the placement of the cooler and the second three show the routing of the return line. I'm dumping the oil into the sump.
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I did install the oil cooler from Insane Diesel. I have found the oil to run much cooler. In normal driving, the oil runs 2 - 7 degrees hotter than the coolant. It's as much as 15 degrees hotter when I'm pushing the truck in hot weather. Since installing the cooler, I have not experienced power derating, and temp recovery is much faster.

Here are some photos, the first two show the placement of the cooler and the second three show the routing of the return line. I'm dumping the oil into the sump.
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I’m thinking of going this route. I’m not trying to be a wise guy, but wouldn’t that location of the cooler get full of mud or if it tried to run when under water possibly crash it?
 

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I did install the oil cooler from Insane Diesel. I have found the oil to run much cooler. In normal driving, the oil runs 2 - 7 degrees hotter than the coolant. It's as much as 15 degrees hotter when I'm pushing the truck in hot weather. Since installing the cooler, I have not experienced power derating, and temp recovery is much faster.

Here are some photos, the first two show the placement of the cooler and the second three show the routing of the return line. I'm dumping the oil into the sump.
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Any update on this...? Surprised this thread isn't with more comments
 
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The system has been working well for me, there are no leaks. There are times where I wish I would have removed the factory coolant based exchanger and plumbed the air cooled oil cooler from there. But besides that I have no complaints with the bypass filter or oil cooler.
 
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You're just running oil cooler, no additional aux cooler for coolant, correct?

Oh sit! I see you're from Wilmar!
I do not have an aux water cooler. Coolant has always remained happy for me. I've only seen one power derate due to oil temp before my aux oil cooler.

Yes I'm in Willmar :rock:
 

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The system has been working well for me, there are no leaks. There are times where I wish I would have removed the factory coolant based exchanger and plumbed the air cooled oil cooler from there. But besides that I have no complaints with the bypass filter or oil cooler.
Towing my 2k trailer in the AZ mountains I almost experienced power derating. 7% grade for a few miles, outside temp 59f and oil temps reached 259f @ 60 mph. Water was good at 228f...So been looking for oil cooling ideas. This seems like it fits the bill.... But with hardly any known "solution" about a known weak point... Skeptical to spend the money and ruin something (low oil pressure ect)

Good to know your setup has been working for a few months anyway
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