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Get tough with the dealer and demand a refund or your truck. I would push for the refund because they have already dropped the ball. Go to another dealership and get one off of the lot. It all sounds fishy to me.
How is this the dealers fault? What ball did they drop? They order the truck from Jeep and wait for it to be shipped. They can do nothing to speed up the process.
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Doesn't matter who owns the lot. Once Jeep turns it over to the shipper, it is out of their hands. They contract with the shipper to handle delivery. Jeep doesn't micro-manage or try to speed up delivery. If they did try, it would raise contract and liability issues that would then involve the lawyers.
Equivalent to I don’t handle that, there’s nothing I can do, my hands are tied. The joys of dealing with a large corporation.
 

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Equivalent to I don’t handle that, there’s nothing I can do, my hands are tied. The joys of dealing with a large corporation.
One thing that is not discussed about post manufacturing shipping, is that it is still a heavily Unionized job function from Teamster truckers to Rail Worker Unions doing the handling. Their functions of how, when. where and what they handle are spelled out in their Union contracts. They are not receptive to process efficiencies that is going to impact them of needing less personnel.
 

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1. My dealer informed me a factory contact said the truck was built and ready for shipment
Rule #1: Dealers Lie.

They will tell you anything to keep you from cancelling the order, they will make sh!t up when they don't know the answer because they won't admit they don't know.

Do. Not. Trust. Dealers.
 

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Talked to a friend who sells Jeeps. The main problem is getting trucks to deliver to dealerships. He has vehicles in KC (200 miles away) and they have sat there for 30+ days waiting on transportation. They tell the buyers they are welcome to go pick the vehicles up if they want, but most will wait it out.
Exactly what happened to a local dealership here.
And where there's snow or weather situations, that can have impact, full load on a truck (no one wants to make a trip to a location with 2 or 3 vehicles unless they have a full load and can drop off others along the way.
Once it's in shipping, it's really beyond the control of many.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I find it mildly coincidental that after 22 days on the shipment lot, the truck gets shipped once I ask for my deposit back.
That's WAAAY out there, sorry. No dealership has that sort of power at all. They can't call and say "hey, get that thing here or we have to give a deposit back". No one cares that much about one vehicle sale, and a single dealership can't control the loads going out of those lots. If that was the case, the dealerships here wouldn't be waiting for months for something to ship.

Once the truck hits the outgoing lot, it's in the transportation contractor's hands. Jeep Corporate is done with it at that time.
Exactly and no call from a dealer wringing hands over a potentially cancelled order can change anything. No dealer has that power.

It's weird, but I have first-hand info on RAM and Jeep vehicles sitting waiting for shipping for weeks, others sitting in KC for days waiting to get up I35 to Des Moines. I mean, really? KC to Des Moines? That's hardly a day trip and it's all interstate 100%.
 

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Get tough with the dealer and demand a refund or your truck. I would push for the refund because they have already dropped the ball. Go to another dealership and get one off of the lot. It all sounds fishy to me.
Really? Dealership has NO CONTROL and can't even ask nicely for anything to happen once an order is accepted by Jeep. It's not the dealer's fault - they have no power at all, no leverage, not a bit. How in the world has a dealer dropped any ball? They placed the order, it was accepted, it was built, it sat awaiting shipping. No dealership, no rep, no one at all has any control once it's been turned over to the shippers. There's not a thing you can do no matter how much you wish you had that power. You and nobody has control once it's done, finished, and in the lists of some shipper.
I don't understand the total lack of logic on such things. Frustrating as hell, sure it is! you want it, you ordered it, it's an emotional thing now and you are helpless, lacking power, pissed at the whole world because no one will step in and make it happen for you.
Fact is - no one can step in and make it happen. It's how this stuff works.
Flame away - I've only stated facts.
 

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I work for the railroad, Sometimes things on the railroad cars go bad and the car gets bad ordered and depending on what parts it needs it can be a few weeks to get it fixed.
 

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Good luck ... all the OEM's are a machine and they run at only one speed. IMO their parts distribution isn't any better ... I recently ordered an OEM part through Northridge ... after a few months I started to inquire. The Northridge rep couldn't even get Mopar to return their call so they went to the local dealer, bought the part and shipped it to me .... Mopar could learn a thing or two from Northridge.
 

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Good luck ... all the OEM's are a machine and they run at only one speed. IMO their parts distribution isn't any better ... I recently ordered an OEM part through Northridge ... after a few months I started to inquire. The Northridge rep couldn't even get Mopar to return their call so they went to the local dealer, bought the part and shipped it to me .... Mopar could learn a thing or two from Northridge.
I did not think MOPAR sold to any non dealership distributors directly. Every MOPAR part I have ordered through Quadratec, they went through a dealership to get it and was just a third party in-between.
 

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I did not think MOPAR sold to any non dealership distributors directly. Every MOPAR part I have ordered through Quadratec, they went through a dealership to get it and was just a third party in-between.
I've sometimes found a sticker with the original dealer info on it still on the package, labeled over with the catalog vendor's info.
 

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The problem is, there has been no one at any stage of the game who has been able to say "hey, this guy has been waiting nearly a year for his sold order truck, maybe we should move this up our priority list"
Koons has done a great job trying to get my order expedited in every phase.
What do you think, specifically, can happen to "expedite" the order? Vehicle production is one of the most complex, heavily regulated, and unionized process on the planet. Your Jeep is a number in a database, and that database assigns it to move from one step to the next without any human oversight or control. Recently the Jeep was moved to another vendor where it has a new number and is in a new (shipping) database. Of course everyone involved wishes you had your vehicle months ago, but if you researched this process beforehand you probably saw that: a) production times vary wildly for reasons that are generally opaque to buyers; b) shipping times vary wildly for reasons that are generally opaque to buyers; and c) Jeep Cares (which is not a concierge service no matter how much this forum wants it to be) and your dealer have little to no control over any part of the timeline...the truck arrives when it arrives.

In other words there is no priority list to move up; Koons put the order in and that's pretty much the full extent of what they can do, they're just humoring you to get you off the phone with the "expedited" talk.

Sounds like you cancelled and asked for deposit back and they are shipping it anyway, perhaps for the best, when it arrives you can talk about changing your mind for the right number.
I know many people here don't order Jeeps and like the immediacy and personalized service that comes from buying local dealer inventory, even if it costs more. But I'm disappointed that so many people in the Ordering subforum think there's "something fishy going on" (what exactly??) or that the dealership owes the OP anything or will negotiate any sort of further discount.

Koons orders more Jeeps in a week than most dealers sell in a year. Yes they take deposits...they aren't going to "handshake" on 100 emails from randos across the US every day lol. Their orders are already deeply discounted, there is no fat to be trimmed. Of course if there are incentives at the manufacturer level that can adjust the price but otherwise this is an assembly line operation.

There's not a thing you can do no matter how much you wish you had that power. You and nobody has control once it's done, finished, and in the lists of some shipper.
I don't understand the total lack of logic on such things.
I don't understand it either but I think it's 2/3 buyers just struggling to understand how large corporations work (people with stories like "the plumber kept delaying installing the fixtures in my new house so I told him I was going to find someone else and that made him show up the very next day" who think that process can scale up to multinational corporations) and 1/3 on dealers who don't set expectations well because they want to keep customers happy and get them off the phone.

Oh, and Jeep Cares should include a note in every message that "We are purely an information resource. All we can do is pass along information from our computer systems, we have no ability to verify any data and even less ability to mandate any action by Stellantis or your local dealer."
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