Lift questions for Mojave

[KurtP]

Kurt, were your fabtech springs stiffer than the stock springs?

yes. I did the half math on them a while back, but dont recall.
the fronts were sufficiently stiff for full arb bumper and winch; once the blower went on it needed more up front. Rears carried a load just fine.

i think the Clayton springs would be stiffer and fine on the stock dampers especially if you have weight on.

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[DbMojave21]

so question for some that have probably looked at the suspension closely.. Looking at standard 2" or 2.5" lift which is roughly about $150 - $200, and then looking at AEV, can someone tell me what exactly is different?
i know the holes for shock extensions are 12 MM compared to 14 MM. some feedback i saw is that you still have to drill out AEV kit. Not sure if it's true.
But are the springs different as well?
this is what i'm looking at based on pics, looks identical... Has anyone tried any of the components from Rubicon as an example?
Rough Country on amazon, 2.5 inch lift kit for JL as an example. sorry can't paste the link. and it's $199

 

[Challenger85]

so question for some that have probably looked at the suspension closely.. Looking at standard 2" or 2.5" lift which is roughly about $150 - $200, and then looking at AEV, can someone tell me what exactly is different?
i know the holes for shock extensions are 12 MM compared to 14 MM. some feedback i saw is that you still have to drill out AEV kit. Not sure if it's true.
But are the springs different as well?
this is what i'm looking at based on pics, looks identical... Has anyone tried any of the components from Rubicon as an example?
Rough Country on amazon, 2.5 inch lift kit for JL as an example. sorry can't paste the link. and it's $199

Well AEV is a well known suspension manufacture so that was a big thing for me. If you use the AEV kit; shocks and springs are exactly the same as stock. You’re just adding extensions, spacers for the shocks and bumpers and new sway bar end links. The AEV does have to be drilled for the shock extensions, yes. I can’t speak to the rest of your question, Kurt might know.

 

[DbMojave21]

thanks Joseph.. the one i am looking at has the exact same components and look near identical. I get the value in name, trust me.
i am curious besides the shock extensions, are the sway bar links the same? is the housing for springs the same as rubicon. If so, Rubicon spacer kit is far cheaper, especially for having to drill out the extension shocks.
was also looking at skyjacker and it's definitely less, but their spacers are metal. can't decide which way to go. bugs me that AEV all of a sudden bumped up their price by $100 for no reason.

 

[Challenger85]

thanks Joseph.. the one i am looking at has the exact same components and look near identical. I get the value in name, trust me.
i am curious besides the shock extensions, are the sway bar links the same? is the housing for springs the same as rubicon. If so, Rubicon spacer kit is far cheaper, especially for having to drill out the extension shocks.
was also looking at skyjacker and it's definitely less, but their spacers are metal. can't decide which way to go. bugs me that AEV all of a sudden bumped up their price by $100 for no reason.

Are the sway bar links the same? As the one in other kits? If that’s your question, I’m not sure. I don’t know what ‘exactly’ is different between the 2 but I know AEV thought it was different enough they had to have 2 different setups on the market. Sorry, unfortunately I’m not as knowledgeable as others here. If you had an electrical question I’m your guy lol.

 

[LCF]

thanks Joseph.. the one i am looking at has the exact same components and look near identical. I get the value in name, trust me.
i am curious besides the shock extensions, are the sway bar links the same? is the housing for springs the same as rubicon. If so, Rubicon spacer kit is far cheaper, especially for having to drill out the extension shocks.
was also looking at skyjacker and it's definitely less, but their spacers are metal. can't decide which way to go. bugs me that AEV all of a sudden bumped up their price by $100 for no reason.

Don’t take this the wrong way….I’m just trying to understand where your coming from….

You bought a $50k +\- Mojave and are trying to put a $200 lift on it and maintain the factory ride or even enhance it ?

Why did you buy a Mojave ? Did you know what it was? What you were actually buying? What the benefits were? What the cons were?

 

[DbMojave21]

for real lcf? I am very well aware what i bought. I am on my third jeep in the last 10 years. Perhaps i am not same as you. I would like to understand what exactly is different. I am looking at my neighbors Rubicon which is same year and really can't tell a difference visually. Most spacers lifts are under $200, for almost any vehicle. AEV charges close to $500, but yet still has you drill out the shock extensions as they do not fit Mojave.
IMO, uneducated person spends twice as much on something without understanding why.
pages like these are dedicated for resolution and answers. Don't be part of the problem.

 

[cooperjet]

They have a Mojave specific kit. You shouldn’t have to drill out the extensions.

 

[DbMojave21]

Chris,
that's what i thought too, but people i talked to stated that they had to drill out to 14mm for the bolts on Mojave shock.
talked to a guy who ordered recently and didn't use it. he said it requires drilling.
again, just trying to understand the exact differences.

 

[Fouts]

Not sure what anyone can tell you. Reading this forum almost every post I have read likes the AEV. It’s the only one I found that is made specific to the Mojave most everything you need and very high quality. I would definitely buy again.

 

[Challenger85]

They have a Mojave specific kit. You shouldn’t have to drill out the extensions.

You have to drill for their install.

 

[Toten Unterhosen]

@Challenger85 beat me to it! However, hopefully the links will come through for others that are interested.

Updated after being skool'd by @LCF later in thread.

The instructions (https://www.aev-conversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/AEV30398Af-Spacer_JT_noSnap.pdf) from the AEV kit on the Mojave specific page (https://www.aev-conversions.com/product/mojave-spacer-lift/) were last updated on 01/17/22. Drilling is required per page 4, to allow an additional bolt for the extension brackets. Drilling may be required per page 12, for the shock mount itself, "Due to variation in factory brackets, you may be required to enlarge the bottom hole slightly using a drill bit or round file."

 

[LCF]

for real lcf? I am very well aware what i bought. I am on my third jeep in the last 10 years. Perhaps i am not same as you. I would like to understand what exactly is different. I am looking at my neighbors Rubicon which is same year and really can't tell a difference visually. Most spacers lifts are under $200, for almost any vehicle. AEV charges close to $500, but yet still has you drill out the shock extensions as they do not fit Mojave.
IMO, uneducated person spends twice as much on something without understanding why.

Ok… I get what you’re asking but I , personally don’t understand why. Why would you want to put a kit on a Mojave that is not intended to be on a Mojave? You said you value what a name means when it comes to reputation, so why not just get the AEV and not try to put a lift for a JL on? If you don’t want to drill the AEV extensions, just buy the Fabtech ones that are actually M14.

IMO, an uneducated person buys a vehicle, with probably the best suspension Jeep has ever offered and then tries to alter it incorrectly.

 

[LCF]

@Challenger85 beat me to it! However, hopefully the links will come through for others that are interested.

The instructions (https://www.aev-conversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/AEV30398Af-Spacer_JT_noSnap.pdf) from the AEV kit on the Mojave specific page (https://www.aev-conversions.com/product/mojave-spacer-lift/) were last updated on 01/17/22 and the only drilling is on page 4, to allow an additional bolt for the extension brackets. No other drilling is cited as being required.

Step 12 illustrates where and why drilling is required

 

[Toten Unterhosen]

@LCF -- Whoops, my bad! I completely missed that! Thanks for pointing that out. I updated my earlier post with the correction in case folks don't follow the entire thread.

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