Max Tow reduced tow capacity??

[Markpod7]

I may be behind the ball here but i thought the max tow rating use to be over over 7k??

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[Average-Joe]

Gross vehicle weght rating is the curb weight plus payload capacity.

 

[CivilJeep]

Hey neighbor! That's the gross vehicle weight rating you've circled, not the tow rating.

 

[Average-Joe]

Towing is still 7650lbs

 

[KWin]

That is an important stat to have circled, if you own these trucks as a work vehicle being over 6000lbs gvwr allows them to qualify for larger tax deduction. So a max tow package likely saves you money compared to the same truck without it. (If you use it for work)

 

[Panthers65]

GVW = Gross Vehicle Weight, meaning how much weight can be on the 4 tires of the Jeep.

GCWR = Gross Combined weight Rating, meaning how much total weight Jeep and Trailer can pull.

Typically the trailer weight is just a marketing combination with the heaviest trailer you can town in a perfect setup (180# driver, no passengers/load, ect....). Its usually very difficult to have the perfect setup.

For instance, if you fully load the jeep down and with all your passengers, gear, gas, ect... it weight 5500 lbs, and the GVW = 6250, you only have 750 LBS of tongue weight from the trailer that you could add before you are over the GVW. HOWEVER, the GCWR for a max tow is only 12,800, so your 5500lb jeep plus a 7500 lb trailer put you at 14,000, over your limit.

 

[Markpod7]

GVW = Gross Vehicle Weight, meaning how much weight can be on the 4 tires of the Jeep.

GCWR = Gross Combined weight Rating, meaning how much total weight Jeep and Trailer can pull.

Typically the trailer weight is just a marketing combination with the heaviest trailer you can town in a perfect setup (180# driver, no passengers/load, ect....). Its usually very difficult to have the perfect setup.

For instance, if you fully load the jeep down and with all your passengers, gear, gas, ect... it weight 5500 lbs, and the GVW = 6250, you only have 750 LBS of tongue weight from the trailer that you could add before you are over the GVW. HOWEVER, the GCWR for a max tow is only 12,800, so your 5500lb jeep plus a 7500 lb trailer put you at 14,000, over your limit.

So realistically you shouldnt tow anything over 5k lbs (dry weight)

 

[ShrimpHappens]

So realistically you shouldnt tow anything over 5k lbs (dry weight)

Just need to be mindful of what the bodies and things in the vehicle weigh.

If you have a Max Tow with 1,600 payload capacity, and you're taking 750lbs tongue weight from a trailer, you still have 800-something pounds of payload remaining. Two people without much stuff in the vehicle, and you're fine. Four adults, with a bed full firewood, a generator, and gas? You're probably over.

 

[Panthers65]

Just need to be mindful of what the bodies and things in the vehicle weigh.

If you have a Max Tow with 1,600 payload capacity, and you're taking 750lbs tongue weight from a trailer, you still have 800-something pounds of payload remaining. Two people without much stuff in the vehicle, and you're fine. Four adults, with a bed full firewood, a generator, and gas? You're probably over.

Exactly. Curb weight of the Gladiators is 4650-5050. Even with a 200# driver, puts you at 4850. a 7650# trailer puts you at 765#s tongue weight if loaded right, so your payload is at 965, gvwr at 6015.

The Max tow has a higher rating than the Rubicon not because it's stronger, but because it shaved a few pounds and is lighter.4650 Curb Weight, 200#driver, and 7650 trailer puts you at 12,500#s, 300# under the GCWR.

Again, not likely to hit that "perfect" scenario, but it is possible. Start modifying the jeep, adding weight, moving things around, ect.... and all that goes out the window. LEGALLY the GCWR and trailer rating numbers to decrease (just like adding air bags and stuff doesn't increase it legally), but common sense tells you a jeep on 37's with 2000#s of overlanding gear can't tow as much as a bone stock jeep off the lot...

 

[Markpod7]

Exactly. Curb weight of the Gladiators is 4650-5050. Even with a 200# driver, puts you at 4850. a 7650# trailer puts you at 765#s tongue weight if loaded right, so your payload is at 965, gvwr at 6015.

The Max tow has a higher rating than the Rubicon not because it's stronger, but because it shaved a few pounds and is lighter.4650 Curb Weight, 200#driver, and 7650 trailer puts you at 12,500#s, 300# under the GCWR.

Again, not likely to hit that "perfect" scenario, but it is possible. Start modifying the jeep, adding weight, moving things around, ect.... and all that goes out the window. LEGALLY the GCWR and trailer rating numbers to decrease (just like adding air bags and stuff doesn't increase it legally), but common sense tells you a jeep on 37's with 2000#s of overlanding gear can't tow as much as a bone stock jeep off the lot...

These ratings are also for the 245 70 tires that they come with even 35” drops that rating dramatically and any incline it would be a total dog!

 

[WILDHOBO]

So realistically you shouldnt tow anything over 5k lbs (dry weight)

Our rubicon has a 7000 lb towing capacity, but with the bed loaded up with camping stuff, we feel it’s true capacity at any speed or incline is around 4k. Our trailer fully loaded would be 3,300lbs with 300lb tongue weight. It does it easily. We would not expect 7000 lbs of trailer to work very well though.

 

[Jefe1018]

In my educated (arguably) opinion, if you plan to tow anywhere near the max rated capacity for any vehicle on a frequent basis, move up in vehicle. For a 7,600lb trailer, go 1500 not mid size.

Can the JT handle it? Sure it can, but it will work for it. A 1500? Likely not a sweat.

 

[Hockeypilot44]

I've pulled a 6000 pound trailer with weight distribution hitch a few times with no problem. In Florida where it's level and at sea level. Just my daughter and I and a bed loaded with a few hundred pounds of camping gear.

 

[GOCAMPN]

I posted this in a similar thread a while back but; sport max tow w/ 4" lift, 35s, still pulled this 6k load like a beast. Watched temps/rpms the whole way home, not a hint of trouble.

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