My OEM Front Trail Cam install thread

[vishnu]

Added update to top of 1st post.

*** UPDATE 8/15/2023

Other than the parts list and connections, much of this can be simplified. No one has tried this idea yet but maybe someone can give it a go. Instead of installing the CVPM behind the rear cab trim as the factory does - a GREATLY simplified method would be to install the CVPM either under the passenger seat or behind the glovebox. You'd make all the same connections using much shorter cables. You'd use a ground on the passenger kick panel. You'd use the CAN bus junction present on the glove box dash rail. If you have factory Aux, run the CVPM power to the ignition on wire. If you have aftermarket or added later OEM aux, you could connect to one of the 15a switches and set it to ignition on. You'd have a far more serviceable installation and the only firewall penetration would be the front camera cable. I'd also recommend a front camera junction at the radiator support. That way you can quickly disconnect the camera and washer and take the grille off when needed. The methods described below WORK and are factory like, but possibly unnecessary.

END UPDATE ***

I might just have to try this, since I have to pull my back cab panel again. The funny thing is that if I break the panel removing it again, it'll cost about $300 for a new panel. I could just buy another CVPM for the same price and unplug/abandon the one behind the rear seat. ???

I do wonder if putting the CVPM under the dash (or passenger seat) would be problematic with it getting too hot. If not, it would be a much better location....

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[Jimmy07]

I might just have to try this, since I have to pull my back cab panel again. The funny thing is that if I break the panel removing it again, it'll cost about $300 for a new panel. I could just buy another CVPM for the same price and unplug/abandon the one behind the rear seat. ???

I do wonder if putting the CVPM under the dash (or passenger seat) would be problematic with it getting too hot. If not, it would be a much better location....

Makes no difference. CVPM is mounted in the dash next to the glovebox on Ram 1500s, under the driver seat on heavy duty rams, and under the center console on JLs.

 

[ecidiego]

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[WK2JT]

Hey guys,

Going in the shop on Friday and had to put some things back to stock. In doing so, it knocked out the trail cam system for me. I walked back through the settings, but still getting the blue screen for the rear cam and the front cam button won't even let me select it. I don't recall needing to wait for the rear cam to work, but maybe I don't remember it that well.

Would one of you mind double checking my settings:

• VehConfig 1: Rear View Camera - NO
• VehConfig 2: Off Road Capable - YES
• VehConfig 8: Off Road Camera Present - YES
• ECUConfig 3: Rear Camera Present - NO
• CBC Features: Reversible Washer Pump Enabled - YES
• CBC Config I/O: Connector A Pin 14: Washer Motor Control Right Rear Output Present/Front Camera Washer- YES
• Cust.Set.Menu 1: Rear View Camera Gridlines CSM Present - Not Present
• Cust.Set.Menu 1: Rear Camera CSM Present - NO
• Cust.Set.Menu 3: Auto Launch Forward Facing Camera Off Road Plus CSM Present - NO
• Cust.Set.Menu 3: Auto Launch Off Road Plus CSM Present - YES
• Cust.Set.Menu 3: Forward Facing Camera Gridlines CSM Present - YES
• Cust.Set.Menu 3: Rear CVPM Camera Dynamic Gridlines CSM Present - YES
• Cust.Set.Menu 3: Rear CVPM Camera Static Gridlines CSM Present - YES
• Cabin Net: CVPM Central Vision Processing - Enabled
• Radio & Connectivity: Rearview Camera Zoom Buttons Preset - NO

 

[ecidiego]

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[WK2JT]

My notes from AlfaOBD:

OEM Front Trailcam

ECUConfig 3: Rear Camera Present: No
VehConfig 1: Rear View Camera: No
VehConfig 2: Off-road Capable: Yes
VehConfig 8: Off-road Camera Present: Yes
CBC Features: Reversible Washer Pump Enabled: Yes
CBC Config I/O: Connector A Pin 14: Washer Motor Control Right Rear Output Present/Front Camera Washer: Yes
Cust.Set.Menu 1: Rear View Camera Gridlines CSM Present: Not Present
Cust.Set.Menu 1: Rear Camera CSM Present: No
Cust.Set.Menu 3: Auto Launch Forward Facing Camera Off Road Plus CSM Present: No
Cust.Set.Menu 3: Auto Launch Off Road Plus CSM Present: Yes
Cust.Set.Menu 3: Forward Facing Camera Gridlines CSM Present: Yes
Cust.Set.Menu 3: Rear CVPM Camera Dynamic Gridlines CSM Present: Yes
Cust.Set.Menu 3: Rear CVPM Camera Static Gridlines CSM Present: Yes
Cabin Net: CVPM Central vision processing: Enabled

Looks like you have them all.

What did you set back to stock? Blue screen on rear - with a "front trailcam option CVPM style rear camera installed" means the 8.4 is expecting the normal rear camera that is direct plugin - trucks without the front camera. It's like the CVPM setting isn't seen so it's expecting a normal rear camera signal, but the other settings took effect since you have a front camera button etc.

Have you waited awhile? Curious as to what all you did.... even with long battery disconnect my rear cam always immediately works etc. I wonder if the Cabin Net setting hasn't taken effect. Try this... set it to disabled, cycle the truck a few times, then set it back to enabled, and cycle the truck a few times. By "cycle" I mean start it, turn it off. Walk far away - have a beer in the house for 30 minutes.

EDIT: OR - check the CVPM power wire and fuse - perhaps the CVPM is OFF? Check the ground for it as well.

Thanks Chris… looks like I just wasn’t patient enough. 24 hrs later and it’s all working again. I just don’t recall needing to wait that long for the rear camera when I installed it. Damn I must be getting old. Again, really appreciate the help here.

 

[WK2JT]

Thanks Chris… looks like I just wasn’t patient enough. 24 hrs later and it’s all working again. I just don’t recall needing to wait that long for the rear camera when I installed it. Damn I must be getting old. Again, really appreciate the help here.

And it was blue again this morning. Guess it’s working out some internal issues. Glad I don’t have to pay the therapy bill. We’ll see what happens. Currently in shop for new cams.

 

[luckblackbird]

Thanks @ecidiego I got it installed. The hose that connects to the pump could stand to be 3-4" longer, but I got it to work. This was easier (with your guidance) than the back panel behind the seat!

I've got some videos from my process that might help others that I'll get together over the next couple of days...


Thanks again!

Will you be able to share the videos @vishnu ?
Regards

 

[ecidiego]

Will you be able to share the videos @vishnu ?
Regards

Let me know if I can help. No videos here but I can take some pics if you need.

 

[luckblackbird]

Let me know if I can help. No videos here but I can take some pics if you need.

Hi Chris, I would really appreciate if you can share few photos how you route the hose from new washer pump (68310928AA) to Camera washer nozzle, and connection of the washing wiring harness(68382603AB)

Regards
Ugur

 

[gazerone]

I’m sure this is a silly question but, did anyone ever do a full install video for this to include the front end washer assembly? I have all the parts and want to accomplish this at some point just want to see the whole process first lol.

 

[Alc]

Not to beat a dead horse but can anyone help me with the part number for the rear camera you need for the front trail cam install in Zenith Silver. I have all other parts but can’t figure this one out…how would I know it is the one with or the one without trail cam…is there a system to the part numbers?

 

[KevinM60]

Not to beat a dead horse but can anyone help me with the part number for the rear camera you need for the front trail cam install in Zenith Silver. I have all other parts but can’t figure this one out…how would I know it is the one with or the one without trail cam…is there a system to the part numbers?

The OP has a parts list but I think there were some corrections/modifications on a later post.

 

[Alc]

Well…kind of. Silver Zenith is technically a new color. I’m not saying it’s any different than silvers in the past but it’s technically a different part number and “new color”. All that being said, I finally figured it out: 6NN98SSEAD

This website has all the cameras with and without trail cam for 2023.

https://www.moparpartswebstores.com

Select you vehicle year, trim and then search Camera and they make it very obvious in the simple descriptions color and whether or not it is “w/trail Cam” or “w/o trail Cam”

 

[ecidiego]

the first post is good to go on parts....mistakes found later in the thread were corrected.

Silver Zenith rear cam added.

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