Overland without Max Tow Package - Lift? Spacers?

[WarRaveyn]

hey all. 1st time Jeep owner. I know there's a lot of topics on this already and I have read quite a few of them. However, I'm still a little confused. I have the Gladiator overland without the Max tow package. It has the stock 18" wheels on it. If I want the truck to look more meatier, Can you help me with recommendations? I thought I woukd just purchase the Mopar lift kit, But that I keep reading about leveling kits in stabilizer bars as well so wasn't sure exactly on everything I would need to purchase. I was told to go with 37's for the look I want. And if I want better looking wheels do I go with 18's? Do I need an offset on the wheels?

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[JustKip]

You've got 3.73 gears, and you're going to put on 37's? Does this mean it's not going off road?

 

[WarRaveyn]

That's actually a big part of my questioning. I may do a little bit of off road but nothing major definitely no rock crawling. Would I be better going with 35's?

 

[sgtkersh]

That's actually a big part of my questioning. I may do a little bit of off road but nothing major definitely no rock crawling. Would I be better going with 35's?

Yes, unless you plan to spend the money to regear, 37” tires is a lot of additional weight and from what your profile says you live in Colorado. That will rob you have power on your hills/mountains. The more weight you add, the worse it gets. So, you do big heavy tires and wheels now (you need wheels no matter what for a tire that big), a bumper at some point, maybe you decide to get a winch, and then your Jeep will feel like it has no power left when you are climbing a hill. You can forget about towing anything or hauling anything in the bed at that point as well.

Now, if you keep your current wheels you can get get something close to a 35” tire that will look good. Look for the threat on here that is ”largest tire on stock Overland” or something like that and you will see what you can do.

If you want something a little bigger or meatier, like a true 35”, it is best to get new wheels and push the tires away from the frame, sway bar links, etc. The places they could rub.

I have an Overland and just did tires and wheels. Tires in 295/70R-17 and they are a good fit. 33.5” tall and 12” wide. It’s an aggressive look without really robbing me of power. I am in the Blueridge Mountains in VA. Those aren’t nearly as high as the Rockies around you, but I still don’t have problems climbing steep inclines. They don’t go as long, but still pretty steep.

 

[andru24]

For reference, this is my Overland with Rubicon shocks/springs, Alloy 1.5” front, and Daystar 3/4” rear spacers on stock wheels/tires. Definitely looks better/beefier but needs some bigger tires.

 

[BLK HOLE]

100% of Overlands come without Max Tow.

 

[Mr._Bill]

hey all. 1st time Jeep owner. I know there's a lot of topics on this already and I have read quite a few of them. However, I'm still a little confused. I have the Gladiator overland without the Max tow package. It has the stock 18" wheels on it. If I want the truck to look more meatier, Can you help me with recommendations? I thought I woukd just purchase the Mopar lift kit, But that I keep reading about leveling kits in stabilizer bars as well so wasn't sure exactly on everything I would need to purchase. I was told to go with 37's for the look I want. And if I want better looking wheels do I go with 18's? Do I need an offset on the wheels?

The easiest way to go would be to purchase a complete of Rubicon take-offs with the TPMS sensors included. It should provide the look you're after, and is a simple swap.

Another option would be to go to the tire shop and get some All Terrain or Mud Terrain tires to fit the existing wheels. This may look better than the Rubicon take-offs, since the wheels are bigger.

Neither option will require a lift. If you do a lift, you will feel compelled to go bigger to fill the space so it doesn't look odd. Then you have the problem already mentioned with heavy tires on Overland gearing. How deep are your pockets?

 

[WarRaveyn]

I was hpping to spend around doing 3k on tires, wheels and lift/leveling if needed. Do I stick with 18" wheels or go to 17"? If I avoid the lift, what size tires should I get?

 

[BLK HOLE]

I was hpping to spend around doing 3k on tires, wheels and lift/leveling if needed. Do I stick with 18" wheels or go to 17"? If I avoid the lift, what size tires should I get?

If you stick with the stock wheels then five 35s will prolly run you about 1500 installed. 37s closer to 2K. A MOPAR lift will run you about 1300 for parts. If you need it installed thats another 1000-sih, +/- variable shop rates.

 

[WarRaveyn]

So if I stick with 18" wheels and go with 35'sbor 37's, will I still need to do the lift?

 

[run2recovery]

For reference, this is my Overland with Rubicon shocks/springs, Alloy 1.5” front, and Daystar 3/4” rear spacers on stock wheels/tires. Definitely looks better/beefier but needs some bigger tires.

Was there a noticeable difference with just the Rubi springs & shocks in terms of lift?

 

[JustKip]

A 37" tire will not fit in the under-bed spare tire compartment. I've heard of people stuffing one of the undersize (closer to 36") 37's, deflated, into the space(Obviously, you will need to carry a compressor)
35's fit under the Rubicon fenders without a lift, and fit the spare compartment..

 

[BLK HOLE]

So if I stick with 18" wheels and go with 35'sbor 37's, will I still need to do the lift?

35s no, 37s probably...

 

[WemoVealot]

Hi Steve.

BLUF/TLDR: I am no expert whatsoever, but we have similar circumstances. For what it's worth, I chose a 2.5" lift and 34" tires on 17X8" rims (I'm sure I will get flamed for small tires).

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Also a first time Jeep owner. Deliberated for months on a Sport S w/ Max Tow but ultimately landed on the Overland. My first Jeep experience was rock crawling near Ft. Carson almost 20 years ago with some buddies and I look forward to start rolling on some easy trails.

I had similar questions, scoured the forums, and ultimately decided on a 2.5" Clayton lift, Fox 2.0 shocks, and five 17X8" rims (0 offset to provide the recommended backspacing for the lift) w/ 34" BFG KO2s.

Considerations: daily driver but wanted additional capability (i.e., clearance) without needing to regear (yet) due to large and heavy tires. Didn't want the tires sticking out at all, but went with the lift manufacturer's recommendation; they poke out about 2 inches, so I'll get mud flaps and avoid states like PA (or put the originals back on). Wanted to be set for 35-37" tires in the future if I want them.

Shoot me a note if you want to see pics or have questions. Congrats and good luck!

 

[Pescado]

I just put a 2.5" Terraflex lift on my Overland with 18x9" rims and 35" tires. It turned out great and I'm very happy with it. My rims have a 0 offset and they stick out the perfect amount. I think this is a nice setup for a daily driver. If you're not going to regear I would avoid 37's.

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