What is shared between the ram 1500 and the gladiator?

[Osteodoc08]

The OEM rear upper and lower control arms are actually part number compatible with a RAM 1500.

Huh?

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[Wheelin98TJ]

Huh?

Same rear control arms for Gladiator and Ram 1500.

68279715AA is the part # for uppers, 68264947AA for lowers.

 

[Osteodoc08]

Same rear control arms for Gladiator and Ram 1500.

68279715AA is the part # for uppers, 68264947AA for lowers.

Interesting. It would be interesting to see the economies of scale and how much was saved by doing so and to understand if there were any other intentional design considerations. Obviously parts sharing between the JL and JT cut down on R&D.

 

[Hootbro]

Interesting. It would be interesting to see the economies of scale and how much was saved by doing so and to understand if there were any other intentional design considerations. Obviously parts sharing between the JL and JT cut down on R&D.

I have not seen exact numbers for the Gladiator JT but it was considerable in how much they saved in bringing this model out. Talk and interviews at the various press junkets when announced and launched in late 2018 and early 2019, the Jeep engineers stated something like 80% or more of the Gladiator's engineering and parts sharing was gleamed from the Wrangler JL and to a lessor extent the RAM 1500 for rear suspension design.

Their biggest engineer development hurdles and cost considerations was getting the tow and payload ratings they wanted. A big portion of that was engine and transmission cooling.

Jeep knew the ROI of bringing the Gladiator JT to market would be a highlyt profitable one out the gate since the lions share of the amortized costs were already absorbed from the Wrangler JL line.

 

[ATL_Rubi]

yeah I've seen there's a sharp divide in the community over it, but by payload and tongue weight I merely mean the downward force on the bed behind the rear wheel and its contribution to bent frames, not ultimate towing capacity.

Most, 90%+, of the bent frames on gladiators were due to hardcore abuse or overloading the tongue weight of the jeep and putting it through abuse. Other frames I've seen bent were due to bad shock choice, choosing longer shocks than needed. When bottoming out the shock, all the force is sent into the frame as opposed to where forces are meant to be sent, the bump stop. If I remember correctly some frames have a notch in the rear wheel well, no clear indication on which model or years get it, as its been scattered across all trims and years.

Editing to add: The only mid size truck I'd truly worry about a frame issue is the Tacoma with it's C Channel frame.

 

[PlayfulBird]

I'm really interested in the frame differences because the ram has a 12k+lb tow rating with the same diesel motor and axles.

Idk, seems like there is a lot of differences, also comparing the testing videos of Rams frames etc to the gladi... mojave actually being reinforced.
Seems almost redundant as both diesels seem to have been canceled

 

[Teqsand]

Are the rear springs interchangable?

 

[Hootbro]

Are the rear springs interchangable?

They will fit as people on the RAM side have swapped in Gladiator springs for a softer ride.

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/gladiator-rear-springs.198528/

I think the part numbers and spring rates though are unique to each platform and are not cross listed.

 

[Teqsand]

They will fit as people on the RAM side have swapped in Gladiator springs for a softer ride.

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/gladiator-rear-springs.198528/

I think the part numbers and spring rates though are unique to each platform and are not cross listed.

I need a stiffer spring for my gladiator...

 

[fourfa]

If you search the Alu-Cab thread, you’ll find some details on people making Ram 1500 springs fit in the rear. (Alu-Cab installs with all the trimmings are about as heavy as you can get)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If you search the Alu-Cab thread, you’ll find some details on people making Ram 1500 springs fit in the rear. (Alu-Cab installs with all the trimmings are about as heavy as you can get)

With the more permanent weight like that you'd want a higher spring rate for sure.

 

[alexlab79]

Ah, the secret recipe to lift your Gladiator! Front JK 4” lift springs? They seem to provide a delightful 2-2.5” lift on the JT, enough to enhance its stance without overdoing it.

As for the rear, rumors swirl that RAM springs work wonders, delivering around 1.5” of lift along with extra stiffness. Perfect for those who want their Gladiator ready for anything, even the trickiest terrains.

Don’t ask me for the source—it’s top secret, classified info! Let’s just say it came from a highly confidential meeting of off-road enthusiasts, held under the cover of darkness in a remote garage. What happens in the Jeep circle, stays in the Jeep circle... unless, of course, it involves a lift kit and some heavy-duty springs!

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