WHOA! Portal Axles for Gladiator look awesome

[Rahkmalla]

Ah yes portal axles. Seems like everyone who finds out they exist gets initially excited about the idea until they discover the price. I know I did.

Ground and tire clearance without a body lift? What's not to love? Oh, wait they cost half as much as my truck uninstalled? Yea... I'll stick with the aev puck lift I have planned for one day.

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[dcmdon]

The HUMVEE / Hummer H1 also have portal axles.

 

[RodRecket]

I think they are awesome just like I think hemi swaps are awesome. I'll never have either because I'm not going to pull a second mortgage to finance my truck, and that's ok with me.

 

[rharr]

Ah yes portal axles. Seems like everyone who finds out they exist gets initially excited about the idea until they discover the price. I know I did.

Ground and tire clearance without a body lift? What's not to love? Oh, wait they cost half as much as my truck uninstalled? Yea... I'll stick with the aev puck lift I have planned for one day.

Yeap... Price and then they also forget portals aren't so hot as a daily driver set up. They are cool for dirt work but they aren't something i would want to be crusin down the high way at 75 on.

Way to much additional wear and tear for that kinda of work, their is a reason they are only used on military rigs.

 

[RubiNewbCB]

There's a Gladiator in this video with Portals from the Link shared earlier.

 

[BearFootSam]

The HUMVEE / Hummer H1 also have portal axles.

Yeah, I was going to say, if you really want portal axles a surplus HMMWV is probably the most pragmatic option. I wouldn't want them on a DD, you are stuck in a low gear ratio. Ever driven a humvee on the highway? It sucks.

 

[fourfa]

3.73 axle plus these particular portals is the equivalent of 4.56s (am I the only one that watched the video?). Plenty of people doing that daily on 37+ tires

No one's yet mentioned the additional drag of 4 extra gear reduction stages, but it's significant. Looking forward to someone showing up here saying "what's wrong with my 9mpg Jeep on portals"

 

[timwiller]

I'm amazed how many people haven't heard of them before.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/portal-axles.59538/post-979597

the FSJ folks talk about them every once in a while... the ones with tracks are cool.

 

[rharr]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3143424275...UQbbODw0g1KOFQkjA%3D|ampid:PL_CLK|clp:2047675

something like this....

Looks like lots of work

 

[Beowulf]

Seems like new wheels would be in order to keep the tires semi tucked. Maybe I'm just overthinking it, but it it looks like you need something with an extra 2" inches to keep them under the flares.

 

[CrazyCooter]

Portals are pretty cool, but that screams "maintenance nightmare" to me. Wonder how much more noise and parasitic drag is introduced by all of those extra gears? Leverage on an already sketchy front axle housing/ball joints?

 

[21RG]

The HUMVEE / Hummer H1 also have portal axles.

They are portal hubs set on an independent suspension. I broke several of them along with the sub-frame on deployments. The steering is extremely weak. The brakes are awesome, but set on the outer edges of the differential and not on the hubs where the tires mount.

 

[21RG]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314342427536?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=245488&meid=51fae3a76d42443dbc6913938a7fee7c&pid=101195&rk=2&rkt=12&sd=284867979038&itm=314342427536&pmt=1&noa=0&pg=2047675&algv=SimplAMLv11WebTrimmedV3MskuWithRevOptLambda85KnnRecallV1WithCassiniImageSim&brand=AM+General&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum:31434242753651fae3a76d42443dbc6913938a7fee7c|enc:AQAHAAABMBTnULwZvkwwvWb54Sp3TESux6kFTXxeByyFeTbBEJTAHELVvJ%2BnpiRCZsaEJO6SgqSsQIHvbg9YL2jxELBYJZWPAuIRQj6%2FC29lmsqlxuBAu6jz6tEjqECs1WUS3BcwMF9b3HgouyQc2JltSbCbgr4KJPAyre63Nduyi1a7aZ8bdMr5UDK2Mi6cJ0sbakoJwWhOlOtzI0OG0on09PvFPQeTe%2Ff5O9zFucTFzXs%2F0W4z1EZx0xt7kKyQ9oSGaXz0P%2BX5AnwtgGQ9SXSuTJz8gJWAxsfGosnwgHpxY1SOd09flZK17aIjCBJ%2BdXTo9AfjdgbNIr2zI3Rt6xnw0XMn%2BMfV7NBJsrBpRWtJApbcMhaJ4oVp4hwS4FB2Rr4tyI6nOeDscGUQbbODw0g1KOFQkjA%3D|ampid:PL_CLK|clp:2047675

something like this....

Looks like lots of work

I would like to see what axle shaft and type of joingt is used to connect the differential to the portal hub. The pivot point looks like it may be a bit of challenge for any type of joint. Also like to see what is being used to mount the brake caliper.

 

[hjdca]

How much wider is the jeep track on Portals ? Will it effect your ability to travel tight jeep trails ?

 

[dcmdon]

They are portal hubs set on an independent suspension. I broke several of them along with the sub-frame on deployments. The steering is extremely weak. The brakes are awesome, but set on the outer edges of the differential and not on the hubs where the tires mount.

What was the justification for the inboard brakes? They were outlawed in most motor racing because of how they stress the axles. The justification then was that it allowed larger brakes than could fit inside the wheel.

Was that the rationale for the Humvee??

How much wider is your wheel base on Portals ? Will it effect your ability to travel tight jeep trails ?

I'm not trying to be a prick, but the correct term is track. Wheelbase is the distance between the front and rear axles.

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