CP4 Fuel Pump EcoDiesel Recall

[Wolf Island Diver]

Really? Very basic economics.... Fuel is a commodity, and is a competitive business, if your competitor decided to scale back production of thier product what would that do to the price of yours? And I suppose next you'll say he has done nothing to decrease our ability to produce..... more product on the market the lower the price, the less product the higher the price.... ya it's just that simple

In 2021 and 2022 the oil refiners and producers all announced cuts to production. They did this openly. They did it in videos to shareholders and in filings to the SEC. It was covered extensively in the news. Various politicians chastised them for this. The stated reason was that lower demand during Covid had lead to less profits and that they were lowering production in an increasing demand environment to increase profits to make up for that and maximize shareholder returns. This is why, along with cuts by OPEC, oil prices went up. In the first year of the current administration the government made one of the largest, if not largest sales of oil leases to the industry. They’re using them. The industry is sitting on thousands of unused oil leases. It’s not an access to supply issue. It’s a business decision.

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[Teqsand]

In the first year of the current administration the government made one of the largest, if not largest sales of oil leases to the industry. They’re using them. The industry is sitting on thousands of unused oil leases. It’s not an access to supply issue. It’s a business decision.

Leases yes, but are they issuing drilling permits on those leases.. You should researched that.... many are unused because they are not projected to be profitable, he closed a large chunk of Alaska, where there is profitability.... I mean think what you want, diesel here is 7.00 gal, it wasn't 7 under last admin. Neither was the inflation, nor interest rates on homes and vehicles.... But hey, hey he is doing a bang up job

 

[Teqsand]

My gut tells me he was saying he checks for water at each oil change and when he opens the valve, the first thing out is usually fuel.
So he loses 4 cc of diesel fuel with each oil change because he checks for water at that time (and likely other times as well, like I did with my tractors)

I check mine regularly but have yet to see a problem.... it's a station issue not a vehicle issue

 

[Oilburner]

From my monthly Jeep report, it says “inspect and if necessary replace additional fuel system components”

To me that reads a Lot differently than ‘vehicle running or not’

 

[Sweetums]

Leases yes, but are they issuing drilling permits on those leases.. You should researched that.... many are unused because they are not projected to be profitable, he closed a large chunk of Alaska, where there is profitability.... I mean think what you want, diesel here is 7.00 gal, it wasn't 7 under last admin. Neither was the inflation, nor interest rates on homes and vehicles.... But hey, hey he is doing a bang up job

Oil companies aren't using the permits and leases they already have, opening environmentally sensitive areas is not going to change the price of oil on the global market.

The *global* market sets the price of oil, not the US President. You are confusing correlation with causation and focusing on factors that are barely a rounding error in the price of fuel. The previous administration saw relative stability in the middle east, OPEC over production, and lower demand during the start of COVID. The world had more oil than it had storage, there was real talk about negative pricing and paying customers to take oil because storage was full.

But sure, let's just blame the guy who has no control over any of that. ?

 

[Teqsand]

Oil companies aren't using the permits and leases they already have, opening environmentally sensitive areas is not going to change the price of oil on the global market.

The *global* market sets the price of oil, not the US President. You are confusing correlation with causation and focusing on factors that are barely a rounding error in the price of fuel. The previous administration saw relative stability in the middle east, OPEC over production, and lower demand during the start of COVID. The world had more oil than it had storage, there was real talk about negative pricing and paying customers to take oil because storage was full.

But sure, let's just blame the guy who has no control over any of that. ?

Ya just can't fix some folks...

These come from the admin and these DO CAUSE CHANGES IN PRICES, oil was low when open saw us a a competitor for the dollars. When we do these things, they raise thier prices because THEY CAN... it's supply and demand, we have demand and and destroying our supply capabilities.... I'm done...

 

[Wolf Island Diver]

Here’s oil production in Alaska since 1960.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpak2&f=m

It went down all 4 years of the previous administration. Its continued that trend. It’s been in steady decline since 1987. Nothing in the data can possibly lead someone to blame the current administration or its policies on this.

Let’s keep this thread about the fuel pump and not about peoples personal political boogie man.

“This country was bought and sold and paid for a long time ago. The shit they shuffle around every four years doesn't mean @&$:in' thing”
- George Carlin

 

[smlobx]

And what part of that is under the control of the White House?

We are already producing plentry of fuel, last time I checked we export oil.

Most the cost of diesel is taxes, and that's not under the executive branch. The president doesn't set the global market for oil, but the global market sets the cost of a barrel of oil for everyone, including the US.

When the president also controls OPEC, then you might have an argument.

I don’t want to get into this argument but several things you posted are just wrong.

The federal tax on diesel is 24.3 cents per gallon
In North Carolina the state tax is 38.5 cents per gallon for a total of 43.8 cents per gallon. 2 days ago I paid about $4.20/gallon for diesel.
‘You can find your states rate here:
https://www.complyiq.io/gas-tax-state-2/

We have been a net exporter of oil until recently when we became a net importer…

https://www.americanenergyalliance....es-is-not-currently-an-oil-exporting-country/

I do agree that the President or any group in the US does not set the price of oil, our production (or lack thereof by restricting leases etc. ) does influence the futures market. The president does control the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (which I had a very small part in) but that is suppose to be for our Strategic purposes only…

 

[ShadowsPapa]

it's a station issue not a vehicle issue

There's one exception - vehicles not driven often and sit through weather changes. Condensation. Happens in the tank on my lawn tractor if it's not kept totally full. But that's a humid location issue.

 

[Teqsand]

There's one exception - vehicles not driven often and sit through weather changes. Condensation. Happens in the tank on my lawn tractor if it's not kept totally full. But that's a humid location issue.

True... I live in the mojave, humidity here is called rain and we only see that a couple days a year

 

[PDXsarge]

Just a quick reminder of the topic of this thread...

"CP4 Fuel Pump EcoDiesel Recall"

 

[ScottLars]

Question....does anyone know where the HPFP is located on the vehicle?
There's a lot of talk about fuel/water filter and looking for contamination there. It seems to me that this filter/seperator is just for "cleaning" the fuel before it's delivered to the HPFP system.
I would suspect there is a lifter pump in the fuel tank and the HPFP is located closer to fuel rail in the engine compartment.

Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.

 

[wildtaco]

Question....does anyone know where the HPFP is located on the vehicle?
There's a lot of talk about fuel/water filter and looking for contamination there. It seems to me that this filter/seperator is just for "cleaning" the fuel before it's delivered to the HPFP system.
I would suspect there is a lifter pump in the fuel tank and the HPFP is located closer to fuel rail in the engine compartment.

Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.

Check figure 103 in the following attachment
https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/attachments/rcrit-23v263-6622-pdf.341000/

 

[Madtom]

The area circled in Yellow is where the HPFP is located on this diesel . the filter is involved because the system recirculates fuel back to the filter/water separator during its normal operation(the diesel fuel is the lubricant for the HPFP) and can introduce metal parts into the fuel tank and lines if the HPFP is failing.

 

[ScottLars]

Check figure 103 in the following attachment
https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/attachments/rcrit-23v263-6622-pdf.341000/

Thanks!! That is some really good information.
ALthough kinda scary knowing what else they could potentially screw up just by doing the replacement.

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