Did the value of Gladiators just fall through the floor ???!

[Hootbro]

Gotta get permission from the bank. Been there on farm equipment.

I did better selling my Silverado to a local Chevy dealer. Private sales suck around here. Everyone wanted to take the WJ I was trying to sell to someone for a day, or take it home so their son could look at it, or whine about this or that. Screw private sales.

Been there also on a late model Chevy Truck purchase I bought private party. You gotta secure your own financing and your bank wants an inspection of the vehicle first before even considering it. Then there is paying tax title and tags. Kind of where dealership shine because they are setup to handle all this stuff that most buyers are not use to doing on their own.

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[foxwalkhq]

No shit Sherlock. The question was framed asking if you had a difference between what you owed and what you expect to get on a private sale?

I will give it to you, sure is some asshat comments in this thread and probably a few of mine in there as well and will take the hit for that.

I can say though, you act like the smartest guy in the room but are in a shit situation of your own making and taking offense to any legitimate questions asked of you.

Good luck navigating this.

I dunno it's nothing personal. When people get offended because people don't wanna throw their time in the garbage for some reason it's like they totally forget about the value of time.

I can count 5 times that I've said that KBB was wrong that I only asked if it was right. I didn't ask for nor need any other advice on anything at all. And I find myself saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over again.

I said in another forum I must be terrible at communication because I thought I was pretty clear that OMG KBB is saying my truck is worth $20-$30k.. is this real or is it BS? (like not true) and everyone thinks I'm complaining that the value went down .. I already proved that this is false, and I have stated it several times.

But it is what it is. I don't recall you doing any asshat things, I dunno maybe I don't remember your name attached to something.

I apparently offended that dude "bruised him" but I been taking hits many times in this thread, so I'm not gonna apologize. It's nothing personal.

This is like pretty much every time things go south in forums. And honestly I don't think it's that bad. I think it's really cool how sub-threads and other stuff spin off on here and it's very loose like you don't have mods saying "hey get out this isn't relevant."

But it seems every now and then I ask a question, and it spirals into something completely different and it seems like people don't understand what I'm saying but then it also seems like they do because many ppl have said yeah KBB is lame, etc. They understand what I was trying to find out.

Anything I've said about my situation is to correct very wrong assumptions about me, some of them derogatory. And that was the sole purpose of said things.

I probably am the smartest guy in the room, no offense. Maybe some are smarter .. I'm not the only smart person around. But I'm not telling other people what to do with their life. I'm just talking about me and defending myself against being called an idiot several times in this thread already.

And then being compared to someone who wants too much or something. Complete with music video.

One thing I will say is I'm not gonna dumb myself down so that other people can feel better about themselves.

If I knew I was gonna be getting 12mpg I would've never bought the vehicle.

 

[JamesWyatt]

I feel like you’re just trying to get free therapy here. I’m sorry for your situation, but if you just want to hear yourself talk, take it somewhere else. No one wants to read these TLDR rants.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Been there also on a late model Chevy Truck purchase I bought private party. You gotta secure your own financing and your bank wants an inspection of the vehicle first before even considering it. Then there is paying tax title and tags. Kind of where dealership shine because they are setup to handle all this stuff that most buyers are not use to doing on their own.

I bought my Eagle from a guy in California. I had wondered about the title and license bit - at that time extremely unfamiliar with CA's methods and laws.
The seller said that I'd be better off literally doing the title transfer in CA, he'd take care of going to their DMV, and putting it in my name in California - then taking the CA title and registration to my local DMV and simply having it moved to Iowa.
So when the car arrived, such as it was, I just took the stuff into our own offices and in minutes, I had the Iowa title and registration.
That sure made it EASY. But then he'd bought and sold a lot of cars between his home state of CA and other states.
Yeah, give the dealers their due for handling that stuff.

 

[Hootbro]

I probably am the smartest guy in the room, no offense. Maybe some are smarter .. I'm not the only smart person around

Must be a software engineer thing then. I get the same feedback from our software engineering team.

I find many if not most of them on the spectrum. 160+ IQ but wear velcro laced shoes

 

[ShadowsPapa]

One thing I will say. I love how it seems every thread gets so much conversation and sub-threads pop off and it's


You have to cover the difference.

He was asking you a question - if you sell it will you have enough to cover the loan?
or, will you have to come up with cash to cover the difference that the sale won't cover?

You'll be responsible for sales taxes in some states. I've not looked into your state - but if I sell anything here - there's a sales tax tacked onto it.
Sell it for 20K and the buyer has to pay the sales tax on that 20K.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Must be a software engineer thing then. I get the same feedback from our software engineering team.

I find many if not most of them on the spectrum. 160+ IQ but wear velcro laced shoes

Whew, I guess I'm still ok in standing with ya - I was called a "software security architect" at PFG, not an engineer, and my shoes aren't velcro.
I'm good to go.

When you get old and are 25 lbs. overweight, you'll appreciate the little things like shoes like this LOL.

 

[916WI]

Shocking that your jeep is averaging 12 mpg. With the years of research, and with fuel economy being a key consideration, the diesel overland should have been your only option. My '23 JTRD is the heaviest pig--it has just about every option and it's averaging over 23 mpg. Basically use mine for towing and HD runs. Have a 4C and JCW mini(both 30 mpg) to save the environment and keep the miles off of the jeep........

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Shocking that your jeep is averaging 12 mpg. With the years of research, and with fuel economy being a key consideration, the diesel overland should have been your only option. My '23 JTRD is the heaviest pig--it has just about every option and it's averaging over 23 mpg. Basically use mine for towing and HD runs. Have a 4C and JCW mini(both 30 mpg) to save the environment and keep the miles off of the jeep........

I compared my typical gas mileage to what forum members reported for their diesels...... I used the prices and price spread here between gas and diesel fuel and came up - it was a wash.
An Overland can easily do 18s even with tire changes and a lot of weight put on - like mine.
But I see 19-20 in the summer, at times over 20.
So suggesting a diesel Overland would be cheaper to drive fuel-wise than a gas Overland - only if heavily modified.

I am also perplexed with the low mpg he's talking. I wonder how heavily modified it is, what tires are on it and so on. I can't get that low mpg even if I tried harder.

 

[916WI]

I compared my typical gas mileage to what forum members reported for their diesels...... I used the prices and price spread here between gas and diesel fuel and came up - it was a wash.
An Overland can easily do 18s even with tire changes and a lot of weight put on - like mine.
But I see 19-20 in the summer, at times over 20.
So suggesting a diesel Overland would be cheaper to drive fuel-wise than a gas Overland - only if heavily modified.

I am also perplexed with the low mpg he's talking. I wonder how heavily modified it is, what tires are on it and so on. I can't get that low mpg even if I tried harder.

OP had mentioned overlanding with it. Looking at it from a towing/overlanding perspective, I had the 3.6 HA that I traded off for the 3.0 Rubi. From the very small amount of towing that I've done with the 3 liter, when asking the truck to work, the 3.0 seemed much less stressed in that situation. The school bus noises it makes are just an added bonus

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The school bus noises it makes are just an added bonus

Our school buses were mostly gas. No such pleasant sounds going to school.

 

[Vtur]

I compared my typical gas mileage to what forum members reported for their diesels...... I used the prices and price spread here between gas and diesel fuel and came up - it was a wash.
An Overland can easily do 18s even with tire changes and a lot of weight put on - like mine.
But I see 19-20 in the summer, at times over 20.
So suggesting a diesel Overland would be cheaper to drive fuel-wise than a gas Overland - only if heavily modified.

I am also perplexed with the low mpg he's talking. I wonder how heavily modified it is, what tires are on it and so on. I can't get that low mpg even if I tried harder.

Imo, it's all depending on geographic. There are lots of hills in the west. And, in SF Bay Area or Los Angeles area, you won't be seeing any where near 19-20 mpg. Unless, you're riding only side streets that has no traffic signals, which is non or riding in the slowest lane on the highways and deals with constantly merging traffics. 80 mph isn't fast enough in neither lanes #1 or 2 here

 

[SargeDiesel]

I have never notices issues using KBB until now. Do you think Edmunds is better? or which one would you recommend (if any)?

NADA use to be the dealership trade in bible... not sure if it still is... might want to look it up and see.

https://www.nada.org/nada/consumer-vehicle-values

 

[MattK]

When I had my truck in for service a few weeks ago they offered me 34,800 - 36,700 site unseen via an automated text message. When I replied back and said it’s worth more because of modifications etc just to see what they’d say they asked if the truck was still in for service and that they wanted to look at it.

They replied asking how much I wanted for it and I said it makes no sense to sell just to get into another Gladiator at a way higher interest rate. The only way I was getting into a new Gladiator was if it was comparable to mine when stock and all I owed was what I currently owe at the new interest rate. They said thanks for my time and that was that.

 

[TheDerb]

I probably am the smartest guy in the room, no offense. Maybe some are smarter .. I'm not the only smart person around. But I'm not telling other people what to do with their life. I'm just talking about me and defending myself against being called an idiot several times in this thread already.

I'm going to write this to you the same way I would say it to you if I was looking you in the eye at the bar:

You have bad credit, you have no money, no job, and you are underwater to the point that you can't afford the gas and are going to take a bath if you try to sell your truck.

You are not the smartest person in the room. The smartest person in the room accounts for bad luck. You didn't.

Hell, if I got laid off, my biggest struggle would be convincing my wife that the slide in pop up camper on the brand new F350 would be a better vacation vehicle option than a full sized camper for the 6 month vacation I'm taking the day I lose my job.

See the difference?

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