Manual Transmission Discontinued for 2025

[Josh00333]

Good riddance. It was a bad transmission and honestly should probably never been put in the truck to begin with.

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[redriderjf87]

Half ass something so you can justify getting rid of it. No thanks Jeep, I refuse to buy an automatic.

 

[steelponycowboy]

I didn't say they abandoned the diesel everywhere. But, you are wrong in that regard. The diesel is not thriving everywhere. It is being dropped in markets everywhere. Even Germany, home of Rudolf Diesel himself, saw the last year of the diesel JT/JL in 2023. It's also absent in most of South America now. The change has nothing to do with warranty issues. The engine is still offered in other vehicles the world over. It got dropped in the JT/JL because of the impending PHEV options. It makes zero business sense to offer two expensive engine upgrades. It's just not financially viable.

Well I was told by good friends that live in Eoropr that it's still being.sold.there and else where. If what you say is correct it just adds to its legacy as the biggest POS diesel Jeep ever used afer

Half ass something so you can justify getting rid of it. No thanks Jeep, I refuse to buy an automatic.

Do you really think Jeep cares?

 

[Gvsukids]

Do you really think Jeep cares?

Supposedly... @JeepCares

 

[MoparDave]

I knew this was coming…. I just kissed my 2020 manual Rubi. It’s served me well for 56k miles.

 

[bmohan55]

Well, i feel very lucky, found mine last week exactly as i would have ordered it, Anvil - soft top and MT. . With a manual you drive, with an automatic you point....

 

[mtbjeeper]

I don't know why people say the manual is crap. The transmission itself is really nice and a joy to drive. The clutch has had issues, not the transmission.

 

[Mightytalldude]

I don't know why people say the manual is crap. The transmission itself is really nice and a joy to drive. The clutch has had issues, not the transmission.

After the recall clutch replacement, it's night and day difference between the 2 clutch. So much better. I'm looking forward to taking it off road in the coming weeks, Ouray and Moab, plus the 1300 mile road trip there and back from South Texas. It's not the transmission, it's the clutch that's the issue. That being said, this transmission was optimized for the Rubicon trim level for off-road, but shines on the road in all other trims.

 

[AKDrifter]

I don't know why people say the manual is crap. The transmission itself is really nice and a joy to drive. The clutch has had issues, not the transmission.

When the gear ratios for the AL6 were released I was massively disappointed. They're just awkward. 2nd is too short, and 3rd doesn't really cover the gap you end up over revving 2nd or lugging 3rd and then having 2 ODs was stupid. I disliked how tall the OD was in the NSG370 and then they made the AL6 even taller. Closing the gearing spaces between 1-5 and having only 1 OD was what I would have liked to see. That being said it didn't stop me from buying, just wish the AL6 had been an improvement over the NSG370 and it really wasn't.

 

[Tullyp]

is the auto clearly an improvement in mileage over the manual?

I've had my 22 sport for a year. It has 33" mud tires, lifted to rubi hieght, magnaflow muffler, stock gearing, with manual, and I average 16.2-16.4 city, and no higher than 17 hwy. Just had a 22 stock rubi automatic on dealer loan for 3 weeks doing my clutch recall (4.11 gears). It got 17 city. And 18+ highway Here is my take on a comparison.

First, Rubi gets better mileage in all configurations and is more comfortable and easy to drive....but not at all as fun as the manual. Auto feels slightly underpowered or laggy except when it is floored, then it gears up nicely with good response.

The manual, as noted everywhere, is geared very poorly, and the torque below 2000rpm is awful on the pentastar. All that being said, the manual can be reved as high as you want between gears, so if disregard mileage, it performs better and it is way more fun to drive. Also highly recommend getting Magnaflo muffler .......sounds great. If i drive for fun, 15.4 mpg.

 

[NortonJTSS]

When the gear ratios for the AL6 were released I was massively disappointed. They're just awkward. 2nd is too short, and 3rd doesn't really cover the gap you end up over revving 2nd or lugging 3rd and then having 2 ODs was stupid. I disliked how tall the OD was in the NSG370 and then they made the AL6 even taller. Closing the gearing spaces between 1-5 and having only 1 OD was what I would have liked to see. That being said it didn't stop me from buying, just wish the AL6 had been an improvement over the NSG370 and it really wasn't.

That's actually why I enjoy the gearing better now with 35s (for daily driving). I find 1st to be a useable gear now and I can use 2nd gear more as well. 6th gear was always useless anyway

 

[Rujonesfamily]

is the auto clearly an improvement in mileage over the manual?

My experience says yes since I have larger tires and more weight in my auto and get better mileage than my wife's. I understand there are differences in driving, but I do not think those differences explain the mileage difference.

 

[hjdca]

5:13 gears with 37 inch tires have provided great gear ratios for on road and off road. I am on my 3rd set of 37 inch tires. 71K miles and we have had zero problems with the clutch. Note: We never did the recall.

 

[Mightytalldude]

5:13 gears with 37 inch tires have provided great gear ratios for on road and off road. I am on my 3rd set of 37 inch tires. 71K miles and we have had zero problems with the clutch. Note: We never did the recall.

Save it for when you need a new one. I changed mine at 77k, and would've gone another 10k-20k easily, but vehicle inspection for plate renewal showed the recall, so it forced me to do it sooner, but the recall clutch is night/day difference for the better.

 

[Biff Happy]

I've had my 22 sport for a year. It has 33" mud tires, lifted to rubi hieght, magnaflow muffler, stock gearing, with manual, and I average 16.2-16.4 city, and no higher than 17 hwy. Just had a 22 stock rubi automatic on dealer loan for 3 weeks doing my clutch recall (4.11 gears). It got 17 city. And 18+ highway Here is my take on a comparison.

First, Rubi gets better mileage in all configurations and is more comfortable and easy to drive....but not at all as fun as the manual. Auto feels slightly underpowered or laggy except when it is floored, then it gears up nicely with good response.

The manual, as noted everywhere, is geared very poorly, and the torque below 2000rpm is awful on the pentastar. All that being said, the manual can be reved as high as you want between gears, so if disregard mileage, it performs better and it is way more fun to drive. Also highly recommend getting Magnaflo muffler .......sounds great. If i drive for fun, 15.4 mpg.

of course it is apples to oranges comparison with different axle gearing with a given tire diameter and anecdotal to driving style.

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