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BFG KO2 37s on Ecodiesel very suprising initial results with driving characteristics and fuel mileage

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I had 37" tires installed on my JT Willys Ecodiesel last week. I was concerned about fitment, fuel economy and overall driving experience. Below is a summation of all three and the bottom line upfront is all three improved, and in a dramatic way.

Fitment: I have a 2" Mopar lift with one inch pucks upfront to improve rake. I also have adjustable front and rear track bars, and a metal cloak rear track bar relocation bracket. I have the RockJock carrier bearing spacer (1 inch) and Bilstein shocks that come with Mopar lift kit. I used Mopar Beadlock capable 8.5x17 with +12mm offset wheels and the tires measure 35.25 laden under the weight of the vehicle (at 28 psi) and I set my ECU at 36.25 and GPS matches speedo perfectly. All four corners have adequate clearance and I am able to articulate up to the 2" bump stops without going full compressed without rubbing. The spare tire is also mounted on the same wheel and it fits inflated to 35 psi with 1/16" clearance. The factory hitch mount is the closest point of contact, and the heat sheild on one side. Plenty of clearance for the rear track bar.

Fuel Economy and driving characteristics: I was very pleasantly surprised here. So much so that I am going to do another run to verify my results. Yesterday I drove 162 mile loop up to Max Patch which was at 4600 feet in elevation. I drove I-40 there averaging 68 MPH and then drove 20 miles of gravel and dirt roads and another 20 miles of paved mountain roads with lots of twisties. The drive home was via I-26 averaging 70 MPH. The computer average for this trip was 26.4 MPG, hand calculated came out to 27.2 MPG. My observations are the Ecodiesel performed significantly better with the gearing ratio that the 37s created. I stayed in 8th gear when driving above 65 with plenty of torque to keep speed in all but the steepest sections. On flat and rolling terrain, the torque at low RPM was extremely pleasant and reminded me of driving my 3.0 twin turbo BMW, which never downshifts and has lots of low end grunt. The bottom line, it is my belief now after experiencing the significant change in behavior and fuel economy that the Ecodiesel is right at home with 37" and 3.73 factory gearing. My Gladiator has never driven as good as it did yesterday and I experienced some very diverse terrain on the trip. Also of note, going to the C rated BFG KO2s was much more bump compliant. Win Win. My plan is to do a strictly highway run, which will happen this Thursday. I report back the results.
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I've been running 37s (Baja Boss ATs) for the past 80K+ and my experience is similar. The Gladiator Ecodiesel loves those 37s, and everything feels more smooth and stable. I'm not close to matching your mpgs (24 clean; 22 with RTT, rack and gear) but I'm loving that you're getting there.

Thanks for the detailed intel.
 

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I also have similar numbers (about 25.5mpg) w/KO2s, 37s and Mopar lift. Usually added weight due to Diamondback cover and 'things' in bed but, great to hear my impression of gearing is good as well.
 

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For those getting 25+mpg on 37s. Were your phone connected to the head unit via BT or Carplay while comparing gps speed? Think tire size entered might be to large which caused the computer to think the actual smaller tires covered more distances.

The only time I'm getting 25+ is when cruising at 45-55 with light engine load for miles. Normal driving is around 19-22 mpg.
 

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I don't know how you guys are getting that high of mpg. 4" lift with 37's. I'm only getting 21 to 22 highway.
 

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I had 37" tires installed on my JT Willys Ecodiesel last week. I was concerned about fitment, fuel economy and overall driving experience. Below is a summation of all three and the bottom line upfront is all three improved, and in a dramatic way.

Fitment: I have a 2" Mopar lift with one inch pucks upfront to improve rake. I also have adjustable front and rear track bars, and a metal cloak rear track bar relocation bracket. I have the RockJock carrier bearing spacer (1 inch) and Bilstein shocks that come with Mopar lift kit. I used Mopar Beadlock capable 8.5x17 with +12mm offset wheels and the tires measure 35.25 laden under the weight of the vehicle (at 28 psi) and I set my ECU at 36.25 and GPS matches speedo perfectly. All four corners have adequate clearance and I am able to articulate up to the 2" bump stops without going full compressed without rubbing. The spare tire is also mounted on the same wheel and it fits inflated to 35 psi with 1/16" clearance. The factory hitch mount is the closest point of contact, and the heat sheild on one side. Plenty of clearance for the rear track bar.

Fuel Economy and driving characteristics: I was very pleasantly surprised here. So much so that I am going to do another run to verify my results. Yesterday I drove 162 mile loop up to Max Patch which was at 4600 feet in elevation. I drove I-40 there averaging 68 MPH and then drove 20 miles of gravel and dirt roads and another 20 miles of paved mountain roads with lots of twisties. The drive home was via I-26 averaging 70 MPH. The computer average for this trip was 26.4 MPG, hand calculated came out to 27.2 MPG. My observations are the Ecodiesel performed significantly better with the gearing ratio that the 37s created. I stayed in 8th gear when driving above 65 with plenty of torque to keep speed in all but the steepest sections. On flat and rolling terrain, the torque at low RPM was extremely pleasant and reminded me of driving my 3.0 twin turbo BMW, which never downshifts and has lots of low end grunt. The bottom line, it is my belief now after experiencing the significant change in behavior and fuel economy that the Ecodiesel is right at home with 37" and 3.73 factory gearing. My Gladiator has never driven as good as it did yesterday and I experienced some very diverse terrain on the trip. Also of note, going to the C rated BFG KO2s was much more bump compliant. Win Win. My plan is to do a strictly highway run, which will happen this Thursday. I report back the results.
What tires were you running before and what size?
 

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I don't know how you guys are getting that high of mpg. 4" lift with 37's. I'm only getting 21 to 22 highway.
Mine is calibrated for the 37s, my Average with mixed driving is 21-22. On long road trips, I get 26. With 3in lift and an OVS canopy.
 

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I've been running 37s (Baja Boss ATs) for the past 80K+ and my experience is similar. The Gladiator Ecodiesel loves those 37s, and everything feels more smooth and stable. I'm not close to matching your mpgs (24 clean; 22 with RTT, rack and gear) but I'm loving that you're getting there.

Thanks for the detailed intel.
I calibrated with the AEV chip and I use WAZE GPS to confirm.
 

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For those getting 25+mpg on 37s. Were your phone connected to the head unit via BT or Carplay while comparing gps speed? Think tire size entered might be to large which caused the computer to think the actual smaller tires covered more distances.

The only time I'm getting 25+ is when cruising at 45-55 with light engine load for miles. Normal driving is around 19-22 mpg.
I don't know how you guys are getting that high of mpg. 4" lift with 37's. I'm only getting 21 to 22 highway.

I'm currently on 35's and the only time I see over 22 is when in the mountains and can coast downhill a lot. I have noticed a lot of the folks who claim those high numbers are from mountainous areas, so maybe thats why... lots of coasting.
 

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For those getting 25+mpg on 37s. Were your phone connected to the head unit via BT or Carplay while comparing gps speed? Think tire size entered might be to large which caused the computer to think the actual smaller tires covered more distances.

The only time I'm getting 25+ is when cruising at 45-55 with light engine load for miles. Normal driving is around 19-22 mpg.
Good questions, I used two different calibration apps (speedometer and gps). Also, tire size change with the Jscan module. I also live at about 2k ft elevation but, my office is near 200 ft 35miles away with freeway driving... not flat.
 

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I have the c load falken at4w rubicon diesel on a 3in fabtech lift. Averaging 21 mpg, but the falkens are super heavy even for c load. 55mph i can average 28 mpg, once I hit over 60+ it seems to stay low 20s. I'm a little above sea level.
 

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For those getting 25+mpg on 37s. Were your phone connected to the head unit via BT or Carplay while comparing gps speed? Think tire size entered might be to large which caused the computer to think the actual smaller tires covered more distances.

The only time I'm getting 25+ is when cruising at 45-55 with light engine load for miles. Normal driving is around 19-22 mpg.
That is my experience with my 37s too.
 

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Good questions, I used two different calibration apps (speedometer and gps). Also, tire size change with the Jscan module. I also live at about 2k ft elevation but, my office is near 200 ft 35miles away with freeway driving... not flat.
As you probably known. The truck will sync and display the phone speedometer app if connected and will gives false reading.
 

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I don't know how you guys are getting that high of mpg. 4" lift with 37's. I'm only getting 21 to 22 highway.
same, on 35s and gde.
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