Oil change at one year or at low oil life?

[ShadowsPapa]

I figured you would remember Ma Bell. LOL

heck, I even remember this Ma Belle (Amie)

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[ecidiego]

Some vehicles actually have in the owner manual the usual oil change interval and then it says "for fleet" etc. etc. to change the filter in between normal oil changes and top off the oil. It's right in the book.

AT&T was broken up before my first stint at PFG and the company took over maintenance of their own massive phone system just before I started there. We had a former AT&T tech there who got laid off during the big break-up. He trained us on the phone wiring, patch panels, the wire colors, etc. I still have some of the equipment from those days - all but worthless these days.

Off topic but yeah - the split, and then back together again. This is as of 2014, it's worse now:

Monopolies always find their way back together.

 

[RVcruzer]

If warranty is still in effect you definitely don't want to exceed the time intervals. Later on you can do what you want. While oils themselves really don't wear out, the additives in them do. They evaporate, age and just plain break down over time so it's a good idea to change them regardless of mileage if the date is up.

It's hurts sometimes but it's just a small cost of keeping your expensive equipment in good shape. In my case I don't have a diesel Gladiator but I do have a motorhome with a diesel engine. It's a Cummins 15 liter ISX with 600 HP. It's schedule is one year or 20,000 miles - whichever comes first. I don't drive it more than maybe 12K per year at this point (retiring soon though) but I still change it every year. That's 50 quarts of Rotella T6 synthetic oil plus a box full of filters that alone would cost more than an oil change on a Gladiator so be glad your Gladiator doesn't cost that much to maintain.

Still you gotta wonder what the Gladiator could do with 600 HP and 1,950 lb-ft of torque under the hood.

 

[Nitroexpress]

Thank you everyone for your replies. The JT's oil is getting changed at the one-year mark by popular demand and because I love my JT, so it deserves that and more

Now I need to decide if I want the dealership to change the oil (for free), or if I rather do it myself. They were great to deal with when I purchased the Jeep, but with labor shortages and all that, who knows what sort of job they are going to do. I'll look at Yelp and decide from there. Thanks again!

I agree, One year regardless of mileage is spelled out in the manual - Smart idea. If you drive enough, use the oil life monitor. Their is a lot more than mileage that goes into the oil life monitor programming (RPM's temp, etc).

Pennzoil 0w-20 Platinum w/ a Mopar filter.

I also agree with doing it yourself. I didn't use any of the free changes. I don't trust them at all. Also, Jeep has made an oil change extremely easy and mess-free. If your time is valuable, it's probably quicker to do it yourself.

3,000 Mile oil changes were created by quick lube stores. Yes, even for conventional 3,000 is a farce.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

3,000 Mile oil changes were created by quick lube stores. Yes, even for conventional 3,000 is a farce.

And the untrained who didn't know any better.
It's unreal the stuff out there. So much is totally contrary to what those of us in the trade for decades have known and done, and how we were trained, some of it factory training. It's just scary some of the stuff.

All one has to do is look in the owner manuals from years ago to see that the auto companies were not talking 3,000 mile oil changes - and they had to WARRANT the vehicle and since emissions rules came into play, it means the company had to make sure it passed emissions for 50,000 miles (in those days) and they aren't going to suggest you wear your engine out and cause it to burn oil and fail emissions on purpose when they have to make it right.

 

[ZoMojave]

I pay no attention to the oil life monitor. Change oil every 5K regardless on the daily drivers. I have no desire to push it to 7.5K let alone 10K. I always do my own maintenance in my shop. Just changed the oil in our Charger 3.6 Pentastar yesterday.

When having someone else servicing a vehicle, the thing most people don't experience is the condition of the oil once the drain plug is pulled. Seeing (and feeling) that jet black and skunky smelling drain oil tells me I did the right thing every time.

Of course, this is yet another subjective topic! Call me old school.

 

[Fortus]

I agree, One year regardless of mileage is spelled out in the manual - Smart idea. If you drive enough, use the oil life monitor. Their is a lot more than mileage that goes into the oil life monitor programming (RPM's temp, etc).

Pennzoil 0w-20 Platinum w/ a Mopar filter.

I also agree with doing it yourself. I didn't use any of the free changes. I don't trust them at all. Also, Jeep has made an oil change extremely easy and mess-free. If your time is valuable, it's probably quicker to do it yourself.

3,000 Mile oil changes were created by quick lube stores. Yes, even for conventional 3,000 is a farce.

Does the washer/gasket for the oil pan plug need to be replaced?

Any advantage to using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum over plain Platinum? They cost about the same, just not sure if it would make any difference.

 

[Nitroexpress]

Does the washer/gasket for the oil pan plug need to be replaced?

Any advantage to using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum over plain Platinum? They cost about the same, just not sure if it would make any difference.

I have not replaced my gasket yet. I have not had any form of leak from it. If they are readily available for an application, I will change them every so often, I just have not looked for them on my Gladiator.

I really don't know the details of the difference in the two Pennzoil offerings. It can be way overthought. bobistheoilguy.com is a good reference for such questions.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/pennzoil-platinum-vs-ultra-platinum.216650/

 

[MPMB]

Actually conventional oil can goes to 7-8k miles. Looks at the 90s honda for example. Those 3k miles change is what they wants the consumers to think. Nothing but revenues

Even further. I went 12k in a 1998 golf. My sister went somewhere around 13-14k in a '97 Expedition. This was before synthetic was a big deal.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Does the washer/gasket for the oil pan plug need to be replaced?

Most of them last for thousands of miles. I have an original on my 4.0 with 130,000+ miles. I keep extras of various sizes and types on hand because I work on that many engines/cars, but if not abused, not torqued to 250 ft/lbs, not put back in with sand on it, it will last.

 

[Fortus]

I have not replaced my gasket yet. . .

Most of them last for thousands of miles. I have an original on my 4.0 with 130,000+ miles . . .

Sounds good. I have to replace the gasket every time in my other vehicle, but the oil filter comes with a gasket + an o-ring, so it makes it convenient. - Thanks

 

[Fortus]

Ok, got it done today and wow, probably the cleanest oil change I've ever done.

 

[kevman65]

All the back and forth bickering aside, do what the manual says and no longer duration than that.

The little brain box on board keeps track of all kinds of info that they can read at any stealership. Don't give them a reason to void you.

 

[kevman65]

Does the washer/gasket for the oil pan plug need to be replaced?

Get the Fumoto drain valve and you don't have to worry about the drain plug o-ring again.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Except it doesn't know when the oil was changed. You do that by resetting the oil life monitor.
If you simply reset it without actually changing the oil, they'd not know that.
That's why it's good to track it in the book or in the online account you likely have.

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