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There was a guy running 8900 pounds gvw on his overlanding gladiator with tens of thousands of on and off road miles just fine. Will it wear it out quicker? Yeah. Will it drive worse? I'm 100% sure. Is it unsafe? Only if you drive like an idiot.
Spoken like someone who has never encountered a deer.

Anyone running that kind of weight on a Gladiator is a massive asshole who needs to be removed from the gene pool.
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Spoken like someone who has never encountered a deer.

Anyone running that kind of weight on a Gladiator is a massive asshole who needs to be removed from the gene pool.
I'm just citing an extreme example of the truck not falling apart just because you added some weight to it which is what people seem to think happens if you go over the payload by 10 pounds. I'm not condoning an 8900 pound gladiator, but this idea that if you go to 6500 instead of 6250 your truck becomes an undriveable wrecking ball is just ludicrous. People drove and still drive trucks and cars that handle and brake even worse and they still get around safely. Its about understanding your vehicles dynamics. If you need to haul a heavy load, stay off the highway, stick to the back roads, and dont drive any faster than you need to.

If you know your truck cant brake for shit, drive like it cant brake for shit. If you know you cant corner at 65, dont do 65. Common sense goes a long way towards getting somewhere safely is all I'm saying.

Hitting a deer is about 75% bad luck and 25% everything else. If the deer decides he's gonna play red rover 4 feet from your bumper and its pitch black, aint nothing gonna save you so just hit the brakes and stay in your lane.
 

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Hitting a deer (actually a large buck) happened to me whilst driving my wife’s Volt, now I only drive the Gladiator at or after dusk/dark. The next deer that wants to play chicken, is going to loose. I managed to go 40 years before that buck collided with me. I hope this will be the last time.
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Hitting a deer is about 75% bad luck and 25% everything else. If the deer decides he's gonna play red rover 4 feet from your bumper and its pitch black, aint nothing gonna save you so just hit the brakes and stay in your lane.
But this illustrates my point - things are ok until they're not. Say you know you can't take a 65 corner at 65 so you take it at 55 but now a deer pops up. Slamming your brakes will absolutely put you into oncoming traffic if not on your lid and hitting the deer is likely to upset the balance of your truck too. There gets to be a point where "common sense" actions to mitigate poor decisions become unreasonable. It's better to not put yourself in these situations and buy a vehicle appropriate for all the shit you want to carry.

This is really why I have such hatred for most broverlander youtube channels because they've normalized running 1.5k over your GVWR and glorified all the crap you don't need to get out there.
 

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But this illustrates my point - things are ok until they're not. Say you know you can't take a 65 corner at 65 so you take it at 55 but now a deer pops up. Slamming your brakes will absolutely put you into oncoming traffic if not on your lid and hitting the deer is likely to upset the balance of your truck too. There gets to be a point where "common sense" actions to mitigate poor decisions become unreasonable. It's better to not put yourself in these situations and buy a vehicle appropriate for all the shit you want to carry.

This is really why I have such hatred for most broverlander youtube channels because they've normalized running 1.5k over your GVWR and glorified all the crap you don't need to get out there.
Even with no load, these Gladiators steer and brake WAAAAAY worse than most cars. On the other side of the scale, there are plenty of box trucks and other vehicles that drive WAAAAY worse than a fully loaded Gladiator. These Jeeps will never be sports cars, and box trucks will never be Jeeps. It doesn't mean they shouldn't be driven on the road. It also means that IF someone maybe didn't have a load, or was driving a different vehicle, sure, maybe they would avoid the deer.

The point bleda2002 is making is that as long as a person is driving in a manner consistent with the vehicle's dynamics, it is OK. Noone is condoning overloading and driving recklessly. The point is that if you are close to the load range, and do it occasionally, and drive safely, it's not the end of the world.
 

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not sure, all I know is I can toss 30 bags of wood Pellets in the back of my Mojave and it is fine,,, btw 1 bag is 40lbs so 1200lbs in the bed.
 

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not sure, all I know is I can toss 30 bags of wood Pellets in the back of my Mojave and it is fine,,, btw 1 bag is 40lbs so 1200lbs in the bed.
Yep - 25 concrete wall blocks at about 50 pounds each in my Overland, no issue.

Bags of pellets would lay nicely in the bed, evenly distributed.

I dunno why people still say these drive or handle worse than whatever - mine is fine. drives and handles as well as any truck I've had now that the steering gear is replaced. It's been all over the place - loaded, not loaded, mountains, plains, hills, interstates of CO and IN, back roads of Iowa, drives/handles fine. Granted it's no rack and pinion equipped fast ratio SUV but for a truck, it's fine. No worse than any truck I've had and a heck of a lot better than my grain trucks ever were.
Pike's Peak road or doing 85 on I35 with roughly 70 mph cross-winds, no trouble.
 

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My label says 982 pounds for the cargo capacity

2023 Ecodiesel Rubicon a lot of options.

I have already bought so much gear lolšŸ«£šŸ«£šŸ«£šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’ØšŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø. I also did remove some weight with the lifep04 starter dual batteries as the bigger one and a few other weight reduction modifications.

The gross vehicle weight rating is 6450 lbs. So overall with whatever I remove and I add this is the number that you’re not supposed to exceed. I’ll be heading to the scales eventually and seeing where I’m at once I load up things and put together my configuration.
 

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Jeep Gladiator 1086lb Payload capacity, Mojave. What? 1730647938240-o


Mojave is a sand dune jumper, not a heavy haul truck. It's definitely purpose-built.
By the time I put on my power steps, I'd be under 800 (about 790)

You don't go Mojave for the payload capacity...........

Can really say the same for Rubicon - it's "aimed at" a different group of buyers/customers, and is an excellent rock and ravine machine.
 

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2024 Mojave X ->

Mojave is a sand dune jumper,
Let me rephrase that for youšŸ˜†
2024 Mojave X -> Old folks ā€˜ cushy rideā€˜ spine saveršŸ˜‚

Yup…I’m not afraid to admit it. šŸ˜‚ Pennsylvania ā€˜Pothole’ country. The Mojave is soooo smooth over them.
 

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Let me rephrase that for youšŸ˜†
2024 Mojave X -> Old folks ā€˜ cushy rideā€˜ spine saveršŸ˜‚

Yup…I’m not afraid to admit it. šŸ˜‚ Pennsylvania ā€˜Pothole’ country. The Mojave is soooo smooth over them.
A few years ago, I towed my car hauler with Javelin loaded up from Iowa to Ohio. The worst part of the trip by far was Indianapolis. I mean not only were there holes, but the chunks of concrete from those holes were a few feet away. I had my heavier Silverado at that time and I literally left the seat more than once around that city. I can see why their "freeway" had a speed limit of 50 then - any faster was a death wish.
I've also been to PA - Reading, to pick up the 1980 Eagle wagon I got for free from a guy there. I had my F250 and a home-built trailer that was what one guy called a boxcar on tires - I bet it weighed 3,000+ pounds EMPTY. I was hauling probably 7,000 pounds - the trailer wasn't totally legal - no brakes on it. Reading streets are for horses, not for cars. I had to unhitch the trailer, take my truck around another direction and hook back up because there was no way to make the corner from the alley behind that guys shop and the streets at the end. Too narrow. We had to use jacks and bars to move the trailer around facing another direction. I was never so glad to leave a town as I was leaving Reading, PA.
Our farm lanes are wider than some of their streets - then they allow PARKING along the street barely wide enough for a car.
 

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A few years ago, I towed my car hauler with Javelin loaded up from Iowa to Ohio. The worst part of the trip by far was Indianapolis. I mean not only were there holes, but the chunks of concrete from those holes were a few feet away. I had my heavier Silverado at that time and I literally left the seat more than once around that city. I can see why their "freeway" had a speed limit of 50 then - any faster was a death wish.
I've also been to PA - Reading, to pick up the 1980 Eagle wagon I got for free from a guy there. I had my F250 and a home-built trailer that was what one guy called a boxcar on tires - I bet it weighed 3,000+ pounds EMPTY. I was hauling probably 7,000 pounds - the trailer wasn't totally legal - no brakes on it. Reading streets are for horses, not for cars. I had to unhitch the trailer, take my truck around another direction and hook back up because there was no way to make the corner from the alley behind that guys shop and the streets at the end. Too narrow. We had to use jacks and bars to move the trailer around facing another direction. I was never so glad to leave a town as I was leaving Reading, PA.
Our farm lanes are wider than some of their streets - then they allow PARKING along the street barely wide enough for a car.
🤣 I believe it…….I’m only 35 miles from Reading. šŸ˜€ This reminds me of a moment in life in Lancaster, PA. Driving a Dodge Ram thru a school zone while school was letting out. Cars parked on both sides, bumper to bumper traffic….I don’t know how much room I had on both sides, but it felt like I could reach out an shake hands with the driver beside me. That was one of the reasons I went back to a midsize truck. 😳
 

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Gladiatorpilot23, I am sort of a weight weenie, I put a very lightweight winch into the factory plastic bumper, Bought a Zamp solar lightweight ridgid solar panel, my Mojave is skidded up underneath , but I did go with Aluminum skids where possible, carry lightweight Helox trail chairs, always look at my rescue gear to reallyt consider what and when is it needed, BUT I do have a cap that weights 175 lbs., do have a fridge in bed at about 75 lbs. total, am planning on going with Falken AT3 tires that are narrow and ten pounds lighter per tire, but do carry my lovely co pilot, Pat, where ever I go , but have no idea what she weighs, and am afraid to ask if we can cut some weight there!
It will be an eye opener going across the scale......Jack
 

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