Building my own flush tail lights

[ShastaJT6]

The OP is the one to ask. He put a bunch of work into creating the shell/fitment.

Yea, the 472 posts here saying "where is the file?" werent enough I guess lolol

Must be nice being in the cool kids club that theyre sharing their toys with

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[Viper501]

Yea, the 472 posts here saying "where is the file?" werent enough I guess lolol

Must be nice being in the cool kids club that theyre sharing their toys with

It isn’t his work product and razzing him for telling you to talk to the guy who put in the work isn’t really appropriate. Politely asking the OP would be the right thing to do. But you do you.

 

[ShastaJT6]

It isn’t his work product and razzing him for telling you to talk to the guy who put in the work isn’t really appropriate. Politely asking the OP would be the right thing to do. But you do you.

Only thing worse than people that gatekeep on forums like this, is the enablers

 

[AKDrifter]

I will say the guy was apprehensive about the idea of sharing his information to begin with. He bought all kinds of equipment to go into production to just pull the plug and seemingly abandon the project. I get the frustration for sure, I wanted a set of those taillights too. But I agree that it's not anyone but his right to share his intellectual property only with who he chooses. If you were the recipient of the file nobody would expect you to share it, that is a gift. If it were to spread around the internet someone would eventually turn his work into a business venture which is exactly what he was guarding against. Until you hear from him directly I don't think there's much to do and badgering a recipient of the information for the files isn't really cool, I'd just let that die and try PM'ing the OP. Just my 2 cents.

 

[ShastaJT6]

I will say the guy was apprehensive about the idea of sharing his information to begin with. He bought all kinds of equipment to go into production to just pull the plug and seemingly abandon the project. I get the frustration for sure, I wanted a set of those taillights too. But I agree that it's not anyone but his right to share his intellectual property only with who he chooses. If you were the recipient of the file nobody would expect you to share it, that is a gift. If it were to spread around the internet someone would eventually turn his work into a business venture which is exactly what he was guarding against. Until you hear from him directly I don't think there's much to do and badgering a recipient of the information for the files isn't really cool, I'd just let that die and try PM'ing the OP. Just my 2 cents.

Ive dealt with people gatekeeping things like this in the past, someone abandoning a project and leaving everyone with blue balls, or someone purposely hoarding a wiring diagram or file that could help lots of people..

Im the other way around on this - if you did manage to get your hands on the file, instead of enabling the gatekeeping, you have a responsibility to share it with the community. "Im abandoning the project" except for certain people that I deem worthy, lol, its like the spoiled kid down the street that leveraged their toys for control over the other kids.

Those files could be a jumping off point for lots of people, and we could see some really cool projects as a result, but I guess most of us arent worthy

 

[Viper501]

Why don’t you do all of the work and invest all of the time and then open source it to everyone since you have the intellect, training, and ability to do that? Then you can be the free love guru of taillight designs. No, that is not who you appear to be. Have fun being you.

 

[ShastaJT6]

Why don’t you do all of the work and invest all of the time and then open source it to everyone since you have the intellect, training, and ability to do that? Then you can be the free love guru of taillight designs. No, that is not who you appear to be. Have fun being you.

Someone needs a hug

I am aware that my opinions on the matter are unpopular and I am very much okay with that.

 

[Justinswidebody]

I'm not sharing my files, because even if I give stuff away for free, and this goes for anything, people expect support, for me to fix things or modify things to their liking. I quit the project because it is way too much work,and too time consuming for little profit.... I wanted to create a cool product that wouldn't break people's wallets... Well after getting into the programming, and wiring, (mainly the wiring) to get things to function properly just became to time consuming. Then to outsource all my work requires trust.... And who would I outsource to? China? Well that's wonderful, send my work to them, they produce it for me, then copy it, change a few things, and boom they're selling their own version legally.

Then give my files to people here.... What happens next? If everyone here who wanted the files new how to cad, they would make their own set....

They print their own... Then I will get questions.... What LEDs do I use, how do I wire them, how do I make them sequential, what other electronics do I need? Then there's the trouble shooting when it doesn't work because something they did wrong.... Who do you think they're going to ask? You guest it, me.

You can check in the diesel forums... I taught people how to do their own cloning of ecu's, so they could send a spare to be tuned. I never wrote a guide.... I assumed the people I helped would help others by paying it forward..... Didn't seem to happen. Finally someone wrote a little guide to help others and guess what..... I still get messages all the time about cloning ecu's. I just don't have the time to be everyone's customer support. I work a full time job.... When I'm off, I enjoy my little projects and time to myself... Not spending all day and night answer questions and helping people.

There's my reply to my abandoned project. Hope it is sufficient for everyone. If not, I'm sorry I failed you. Can't wait to see what you cad up and create... Everyone and myself put a lot of great ideas in this thread that shows what everyone wants. Good luck making everyone happy

 

[sharpsicle]

I'm not sharing my files, because even if I give stuff away for free, and this goes for anything, people expect support, for me to fix things or modify things to their liking. I quit the project because it is way too much work,and too time consuming for little profit.... I wanted to create a cool product that wouldn't break people's wallets... Well after getting into the programming, and wiring, (mainly the wiring) to get things to function properly just became to time consuming. Then to outsource all my work requires trust.... And who would I outsource to? China? Well that's wonderful, send my work to them, they produce it for me, then copy it, change a few things, and boom they're selling their own version legally.

Then give my files to people here.... What happens next? If everyone here who wanted the files new how to cad, they would make their own set....

They print their own... Then I will get questions.... What LEDs do I use, how do I wire them, how do I make them sequential, what other electronics do I need? Then there's the trouble shooting when it doesn't work because something they did wrong.... Who do you think they're going to ask? You guest it, me.

You can check in the diesel forums... I taught people how to do their own cloning of ecu's, so they could send a spare to be tuned. I never wrote a guide.... I assumed the people I helped would help others by paying it forward..... Didn't seem to happen. Finally someone wrote a little guide to help others and guess what..... I still get messages all the time about cloning ecu's. I just don't have the time to be everyone's customer support. I work a full time job.... When I'm off, I enjoy my little projects and time to myself... Not spending all day and night answer questions and helping people.

There's my reply to my abandoned project. Hope it is sufficient for everyone. If not, I'm sorry I failed you. Can't wait to see what you cad up and create... Everyone and myself put a lot of great ideas in this thread that shows what everyone wants. Good luck making everyone happy

I couldn't respect this stance more. This is the true cost of something like this from someone who's done it before, and I for one support you in your stance. Does it suck not to have more options? Yes. But does that mean we should steal yours from you? Absolutely not.

You did the work, you put in the hours and the sweat and the frustrations in trying to make it work. It's yours to control however you choose. As you put so well, "who do I trust" is everywhere with something like this, and that kind of collaborative support structure isn't just going to materialize from people on a forum thread unfortunately.

Well put my friend. Well put. I wish I could've helped more with the programming and wiring, but it is what it is, and I wish you nothing but the best.

 

[RudeJeepin]

@Justinswidebody say it ain't so. HAHAHA. Nah, really I totally get it. Been there done that to a smaller extent.
Back when I had a certain cruiser style motorcycle I figured out how to fit a more common, bigger, more comfortable seat, from another motorcycle on it. People wanted me to make them the adapter brackets. I get it, not everyone has the access to the right tools. I posted several pictures and ended up even posting the dimensions. Still got asked, I got PMs several years after I got rid of the bike and hadn't been on the forum.
I tried to give back, but I didn't have the time or will to make them for others.

I was looking forward to a set of your housings, but oh well, such is life.
Take it easy and enjoy.

 

[punk'n]

I'm not sharing my files, because even if I give stuff away for free, and this goes for anything, people expect support, for me to fix things or modify things to their liking. I quit the project because it is way too much work,and too time consuming for little profit.... I wanted to create a cool product that wouldn't break people's wallets... Well after getting into the programming, and wiring, (mainly the wiring) to get things to function properly just became to time consuming. Then to outsource all my work requires trust.... And who would I outsource to? China? Well that's wonderful, send my work to them, they produce it for me, then copy it, change a few things, and boom they're selling their own version legally.

Then give my files to people here.... What happens next? If everyone here who wanted the files new how to cad, they would make their own set....

They print their own... Then I will get questions.... What LEDs do I use, how do I wire them, how do I make them sequential, what other electronics do I need? Then there's the trouble shooting when it doesn't work because something they did wrong.... Who do you think they're going to ask? You guest it, me.

You can check in the diesel forums... I taught people how to do their own cloning of ecu's, so they could send a spare to be tuned. I never wrote a guide.... I assumed the people I helped would help others by paying it forward..... Didn't seem to happen. Finally someone wrote a little guide to help others and guess what..... I still get messages all the time about cloning ecu's. I just don't have the time to be everyone's customer support. I work a full time job.... When I'm off, I enjoy my little projects and time to myself... Not spending all day and night answer questions and helping people.

There's my reply to my abandoned project. Hope it is sufficient for everyone. If not, I'm sorry I failed you. Can't wait to see what you cad up and create... Everyone and myself put a lot of great ideas in this thread that shows what everyone wants. Good luck making everyone happy

Its sad that you even had to post this. Your time/money/design and skill. Its all yours as it should be.

It's ridiculous for anyone to call you out (or anyone you may have sent the file to).

 

[ShastaJT6]

I'm not sharing my files, because even if I give stuff away for free, and this goes for anything, people expect support, for me to fix things or modify things to their liking. I quit the project because it is way too much work,and too time consuming for little profit.... I wanted to create a cool product that wouldn't break people's wallets... Well after getting into the programming, and wiring, (mainly the wiring) to get things to function properly just became to time consuming. Then to outsource all my work requires trust.... And who would I outsource to? China? Well that's wonderful, send my work to them, they produce it for me, then copy it, change a few things, and boom they're selling their own version legally.

Then give my files to people here.... What happens next? If everyone here who wanted the files new how to cad, they would make their own set....

They print their own... Then I will get questions.... What LEDs do I use, how do I wire them, how do I make them sequential, what other electronics do I need? Then there's the trouble shooting when it doesn't work because something they did wrong.... Who do you think they're going to ask? You guest it, me.

You can check in the diesel forums... I taught people how to do their own cloning of ecu's, so they could send a spare to be tuned. I never wrote a guide.... I assumed the people I helped would help others by paying it forward..... Didn't seem to happen. Finally someone wrote a little guide to help others and guess what..... I still get messages all the time about cloning ecu's. I just don't have the time to be everyone's customer support. I work a full time job.... When I'm off, I enjoy my little projects and time to myself... Not spending all day and night answer questions and helping people.

There's my reply to my abandoned project. Hope it is sufficient for everyone. If not, I'm sorry I failed you. Can't wait to see what you cad up and create... Everyone and myself put a lot of great ideas in this thread that shows what everyone wants. Good luck making everyone happy

The only question I have for you is where is the link to the files? The number of assumptions in this post is wild.

It takes 2 minutes of effort to upload the file on thingiverse and type "Provided as is, unable to support in 3d printing or electrical questions". Done. You would do a great service to the communit, you would give people an amazing platform to start with to create their own cool projects.

The idea that people are going to dogpile you with questions and youll be "forced" to support them is really silly.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

The only question I have for you is where is the link to the files? The number of assumptions in this post is wild.

It takes 2 minutes of effort to upload the file on thingiverse and type "Provided as is, unable to support in 3d printing or electrical questions". Done. You would do a great service to the communit, you would give people an amazing platform to start with to create their own cool projects.

The idea that people are going to dogpile you with questions and youll be "forced" to support them is really silly.

This post should get you the files.

 

[MUDHORN_Gladiator]

The only question I have for you is where is the link to the files? The number of assumptions in this post is wild.

It takes 2 minutes of effort to upload the file on thingiverse and type "Provided as is, unable to support in 3d printing or electrical questions". Done. You would do a great service to the communit, you would give people an amazing platform to start with to create their own cool projects.

The idea that people are going to dogpile you with questions and youll be "forced" to support them is really silly.

I agree. When I asked for the file, I had no expectation of further support. I already have a solution for the wiring and lights. I just needed a file for the housing. Not that I ever have free time, but I’m hoping to eventually have the time to attempt to create a file for the housing. If I ever do, I’ll share it as I expect someone will improve on it almost immediately.

 

[Justinswidebody]

The only question I have for you is where is the link to the files? The number of assumptions in this post is wild.

It takes 2 minutes of effort to upload the file on thingiverse and type "Provided as is, unable to support in 3d printing or electrical questions". Done. You would do a great service to the communit, you would give people an amazing platform to start with to create their own cool projects.

The idea that people are going to dogpile you with questions and youll be "forced" to support them is really silly.

I'll tell you what.... Since you feel I owe you something, then I feel you owe me something. I will give you the file if you can show me a decent attempt at trying to cad a tail light for the gladiator.

Shouldn't be too hard... I mean I did it.... I didn't go to college. I'm self taught straight out of YouTube university.....

I'll stand by my word.... You show me a decent attempt that you tried to cad a gladiator tail light, and I'll share my files only to you.

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