Well that doesn't help lol. You can absolutely have fused hardwired connections. Those are not mutually exclusive things.
Aux 1 (F93-40A) Brown/pink stripe
What is this "harbor freight Badlands battery" you speak of ?
I mean't to say winch, sorry typo!
Ok.... since I can't, maybe you will share ? What percentage ?
Not true either - anything that's hardwired in your house goes through a breaker. The Level 2 charger i installed is hardwired - to a breaker. It means there is no switch and no outlet between power source and device.
yes, like the snippet of the owners manual I posted.
At least you weren't talking about your wench.
I asked my son what his definition of hardwired is. His response was, if it is bolted crimped or screwed to a terminal stud or post, it is hardwired. If it has clamps or lose cable ends it is not hardwired. I gave him examples of direct to the battery and through a solenoid. He said both are hardwired by definition. He added, why would anyone hook up directly to the battery?. Someone's looking for a dead battery. I laughed at that reply. He said that He has pulled out several people with winches that didn't work or disconnected. He has pulled a few that had solenoids that failed. He showed them how to move one of the cables to the other post on the solenoid for a temporary solution.We get into semantics there because when you say "hard wired" for most that means a single wire from device to power source. So if you say "hardwired to the battery" most think of a single cable running directly from the device to the positive battery post.
It's not switched power.
If you run a solenoid, it's technically switched power because the solenoid is a switch.
When you install a level 2 EV charger, you can use a 220 outlet of the proper rating or you can hardwire it - and that means you have a single wire from the charger to the breaker. it's hardwired. No switch, no outlet.
Hardwired implies a switch or other device is not in the line. A solenoid is a switch so mind is switched power.
I contend that in your example, the device or items at the rear are switched, not hardwired. Hardwired is a direct connection to the power source, unswitched, no connections.
It refers to a type of wiring with no switches and no outlets.
A solenoid is a switch (it's really a relay, a high current relay)
Add a relay, you now have a switch in the mix it's no longer hardwired, it's switched.
People also have a bad picture of the aux switches in mind - nothing you connect actually goes through those switches in the center pod.
Any device you wire using the aux switches goes through relays. The aux switch simply controls the relay. No power from the light bar goes into the cabin.
So the aux switch is actually controlling a relay which in turn power the coil in a "solenoid" which electrically is another relay. Not a lick of the power goes to the aux switch.
So technically you wire nothing "to" the aux switches themselves, you connect to the colored wires that come from the PDC where the aux switch relays sit. The switches only power the relays, and even that is not done directly because you can have them be momentary, NO, NC, ignition source or battery source. So the switches don't even directly control the relays. The aux switches control electronics that in turn control the relays which in turn control a device like a solenoid (a form of relay) or a device like a light bar.
You have 2 40 amp and 2 15 amp "aux switch circuits")
So if anyone says "you can't connect that to an aux switch!" - they are technically correct, you are connecting to a wire that runs to a relay controlled by the aux switch, and if the draw is under 40 amps, you can control if via one of the two 40 amp circuit aux switches.
If he had to do that, I wonder who the heck installed that winch for them. Seriously? He had to show them? No wonder there are so many Jeep fires.
If you haven't done the relay box relocation and it gets wet a few times for corrosion to start, it will drain your battery if it is hot off the battery. That was a recovery we did about 10 years ago. A 1500 Ram was crossing a creek it stalled out with the winch under water. The battery would not start the truck and before they hooked up the controller to the winch they heard the bacon sizzling in the relay box. We ended up disconnecting the cable to stop the relays from cooking.
You can use whatever semantics you want, I explained my interpretation of the language used. In the industrial electrical world, hardwired would simply mean there's no plug. Your light fixtures are hardwired. They are obviously fed through a breaker, usually with multiple different areas on a single circuit, usually controlled by switches or other control devices. But still hard wired. Your desk lamp isn't hardwired as it plugs in to an outlet. Direct wired would be fed directly from the source panel, which almost always has multiple circuit breakers in it, but the items being powered is direct wired to the panel. Again semantics. The way I interperated the question I responded to which was something like "why is the winch wired directly to the battery and not the aux switches?" Was that the person was asking why the winch isn't wired to the aux switches? Not "why isn't the winch wired to a relay and controlled by the aux switches"? The answer to that question is simply ampacity. The answer to the "why not use a solenoid and control it by the aux switches?" Question was also answered, it's not necessary in my opinion and not even recommended by most manufacturers. You can run one. You can assume with no evidence that they don't recommended it for cost, or simplicity, or ease of wiring but that's just an opinion.Not true either - anything that's hardwired in your house goes through a breaker. The Level 2 charger i installed is hardwired - to a breaker. It means there is no switch and no outlet between power source and device.
Anything with a switch or outlet or some other connection (like a dash cam plugged into the 12v socket) is not hardwired.
You are saying that nothing in your house is hardwired.
The power source is the fuse or the breaker.
Uninterrupted - no switch, no control device - a direct, fixed link between device and source.
Because they’re directly connected to the power source, there’s less risk of disconnection or interference.
yes, like the snippet of the owners manual I posted.
If accessory lights such as a light bar are safely under 40 amps you can absolutely wire them "through the aux switches" because 1 and 2 can handle up to 40 amps.
A relay is a switch, electrically controlled.
A solenoid is also a switch, electrically controlled.
Anything going through a relay or a solenoid as the word "solenoid" is used in automotive terms is switched.
You must get a thrill out of arguing with others with how often you change your tune.
My cheap Warn Evo 12S did not come with a kill switch.
Boiled down right there.
I'm not sure which model it was but I bought it from a local store. It came with the warn solenoid. I got it for a Christmas gift for my brother in law a few years back.
