Ecodiesel power derating as temps rise?

[@californiajeeping]

Added the poison spider vent. It was a pain in the ass and almost impossible to tighten the bolts without some warping
of the hood skin.

I also removed the seal at the rear of the hood on thecowl and two foam blocks at the cowl.

I have reduced the temp at the firewall by 30 degrees. Air comes out of the front louvers while the fan runs and also pushes a ton of hot air out of the gap of the rear of the hood.

I am not sure if it’s going to help anything as far as oil temps but hood venting and removing the seal and foam blocks definitely let’s air out.

I can touch the intercooler pipes and air intake and everything under the hood on a 90 degree day after a very hard drive.

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[@californiajeeping]

So far the hood vent is AMAZING. I popped the hood it was 93 outside and I had just driven up the foothills and shut the jeep off. I can put my hand on anything under the hood.

When I went to install the hood vent i popped the hood two hours after driving and it was too hot to touch the prop rod or anything under the hood. Basically was insulating the engine bay.

Very happy with a $150 part.

 

[NCJL]

Bought a new oil pan. Added 4-3/8 bung for oil return from Insane/cooler line, future temp sensor and 12v oil pump with cooler if necessary.
I thought the return from oil bypass filter would be more efficient going straight into the pan.
So far seems very positive. Update with some real world info soon.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

Which 12v pump are you looking to add? Looks good so far!
Also! Like that PSC Setup!! ?

 

[mrmo]

So far the hood vent is AMAZING. I popped the hood it was 93 outside and I had just driven up the foothills and shut the jeep off. I can put my hand on anything under the hood.

When I went to install the hood vent i popped the hood two hours after driving and it was too hot to touch the prop rod or anything under the hood. Basically was insulating the engine bay.

Very happy with a $150 part.

I know this is a few months old, but any issues with rain intrusion? I know all the comments say it wont hurt anything, but I believe differently, and think water into the engine bay should be prevented overall.

 

[NCJL]

Which 12v pump are you looking to add? Looks good so far!
Also! Like that PSC Setup!! ?

All the ones I have found seem to be manufactured by the same company in Italy. The only problem is they all are rated at 170* continuous. Not good for a modern diesel.
I actually do not think I’ll need the 12v pump. The modes I’ve made so far don’t let the oil temp get above 230* with the cooling fan turned off.

 

[jc99]

Bought a new oil pan. Added 4-3/8 bung for oil return from Insane/cooler line, future temp sensor and 12v oil pump with cooler if necessary.
I thought the return from oil bypass filter would be more efficient going straight into the pan.
So far seems very positive. Update with some real world info soon.

Looks like the bungs worked out well. Have a part number you used for them?

 

[Rusty PW]

All the ones I have found seem to be manufactured by the same company in Italy. The only problem is they all are rated at 170* continuous. Not good for a modern diesel.
I actually do not think I’ll need the 12v pump. The modes I’ve made so far don’t let the oil temp get above 230* with the cooling fan turned off.

Tilton pumps. I use one for my diff cooler in my Nismo. It see's temp as high as 270F.

https://tiltonracing.com/product/co...uMbfHem_S0soJlXCQ6K6bo4pIHHE7z3BoCeDIQAvD_BwE

 

[NCJL]

Looks like the bungs worked out well. Have a part number you used for them?

ARP-800-8202 3/8 NPT

 

[@californiajeeping]

I know this is a few months old, but any issues with rain intrusion? I know all the comments say it wont hurt anything, but I believe differently, and think water into the engine bay should be prevented overall.

zero issues.Went through a serious rain/snowstorm and nada. It’s not like it rains into the engine bay. The vent has louvers. There’s nothing on top of the engine over the vents that can be damaged. I’ve ran Similar vents on other Jeeps never been a problem.

 

[NCJL]

Tilton pumps. I use one for my diff cooler in my Nismo. It see's temp as high as 270F.

https://tiltonracing.com/product/co...uMbfHem_S0soJlXCQ6K6bo4pIHHE7z3BoCeDIQAvD_BwE

Just got a reply from Tilton. They do not recommend their oil pump in my application (Pumping 200* plus engine oil). They recommended I find a billet aluminum pump.
Quickest response from a manufacturer I can remember getting.

 

[Glad_he_ate]

Bought a new oil pan. Added 4-3/8 bung for oil return from Insane/cooler line, future temp sensor and 12v oil pump with cooler if necessary.
I thought the return from oil bypass filter would be more efficient going straight into the pan.
So far seems very positive. Update with some real world info soon.

Glad to see someone taking this route, had I kept mine I would have had this done by now lol. I think your on the right tract. Also for what it’s worth you could put the pump on the return side of the cooler and pull the oil through the cooler. It would then be cool prior to hitting the pump?? Just a thought ? this layout would “in my head “ be out from pan through cooler then through pump then through filter then return to pan. Regardless of how you set up the order of operations I personally would recommend that you ALWAYS filter last. In case your pump busts a tooth or something. You don’t want any of that making it into the pan.

 

[Rusty PW]

Glad to see someone taking this route, had I kept mine I would have had this done by now lol. I think your on the right tract. Also for what it’s worth you could put the pump on the return side of the cooler and pull the oil through the cooler. It would then be cool prior to hitting the pump?? Just a thought ? this layout would “in my head “ be out from pan through cooler then through pump then through filter then return to pan. Regardless of how you set up the order of operations I personally would recommend that you ALWAYS filter last. In case your pump busts a tooth or something. You don’t want any of that making it into the pan.

This is the way my diff cooler is set up. From the diff, to the cooler, to the pump, then back to the diff.

My oil cooler uses a thermostatic plate between the block and oil filter. It goes from there, to the cooler, back to the plate. Both of my coolers are Setrab. The oil cooler is a 34 row unit, and the diff cooler is a 12 row.

 

[mrmo]

I like this set up as well. Only thing I see as an issue is how to ensure no cavitation of the engine oil pump. You would have to figure out the 1 or 2 extra quarts to keep the system full, then how to check the levels? Putting a check valve in line prior to the pan return would do this.

 

[@californiajeeping]

This is the way my diff cooler is set up. From the diff, to the cooler, to the pump, then back to the diff.

My oil cooler uses a thermostatic plate between the block and oil filter. It goes from there, to the cooler, back to the plate. Both of my coolers are Setrab. The oil cooler is a 34 row unit, and the diff cooler is a 12 row.

That is the way to go for sure. A separate oil cooler cooling the pan oil directly.

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