Jeep CEO admits last CEO was bad

[Rusty PW]

Is “woke” what HD owners call engine geometry less than 70 years old?

The ceo about broke the company. They may not make it.

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[Sweetums]

The ceo about broke the company. They may not make it.

This has been the case for HD since ... hang on (checks notes) ... 1929.

 

[ecidiego]

BEVs are far less complex than hybrids. LOL at luddites srs. Muh gas. China is going to win yet another battle due to ignorance here. Canada is going to bring their BEVs in. US manufacturers are toast.

Jeep does suck at electrification though. GM is great at it.

One thing I never realized was how many people drive 1000 miles every day..... our 350mi range EV just can't cut it there.

Effing lol @ 'eEeVEeS aRe a FaD'. Ok Cleetus.

 

[Janster]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/stellantis-takes-massive-26b-hit-after-moving-away-from-evs

Every manufacturer jumped on that bandwagon…….. you can blame social media & news for the ‘hype’ that ran across society

….and since the Olympics are going on….. as soon as that torch is passed to another country they’ll be back…..

 

[legacy_etu]

I agree....but I sure did almost get into some knock-down dragouts with some of the EV fanboys here. They're unhinged, of that I'm sure.

Um, you should try the Rivian or Scout forums. Talk about unhinged!

 

[Hootbro]

Armchair CEO here.

The auto making business is not like most other businesses in that if something is not a hit, you can course correct in real time. It is a very long lead business measured in multiple years that requires capital investment in the present to be relevant 5-10+ years down the road.

Tavares and any of the other auto makers CEO's were responding to govt. regulation requirements that were pushing EV's and ending ICE. Of course when it has to stand on it's own market merits and not propped up by tax payer dollar subsidies, this outcome was predictable now.

 

[texanjeeper]

Armchair CEO here.

The auto making business is not like most other businesses in that if something is not a hit, you can course correct in real time. It is a very long lead business measured in multiple years that requires capital invest to be relevant 5-10+ years down the road.

Tavares and any of the other auto makers CEO's were responding to govt. regulation requirements that were pushing EV's and ending ICE. Of course when it has to stand on it's own market merits and not propped up by tax payer dollar subsidies, this outcome was predictable now.

I'll bet that you're better than the last guy they had running it. His line would have been, I'm not a CEO but I play one on TV.

 

[Sweetums]

Armchair CEO here.

The auto making business is not like most other businesses in that if something is not a hit, you can course correct in real time. It is a very long lead business measured in multiple years that requires capital invest to be relevant 5-10+ years down the road.

Tavares and any of the other auto makers CEO's were responding to govt. regulation requirements that were pushing EV's and ending ICE. Of course when it has to stand on it's own market merits and not propped up by tax payer dollar subsidies, this outcome was predictable now.

Indeed, but there were still serious problems unrelated to emissions requirements. Poor quality control, poor reliability; the fact that my truck is about to go to the shop to get a new hood, drivers door, passenger front door, driver's rear door, and tailgate (it should be all 4 doors, but the rust on one is on the inside so Stellantis told me to kick rocks)... you know, stuff like that.

I knew what I was in for when I picked the Gladiator, I've made peace with the decision to get a car that speaks to my emotions instead of my brain for the first time in my life. Still, it's obnoxious when a $60,000+ truck can't keep the weather on the outside of the roof.

I'm not mad about the hybrid, but I'm unhappy about all the quality issues. I'd actually like a hybrid truck I can plug in; I could really cut down on my fuel costs and probably drive to work and back entirely on electricity. My city regularly has worse air than Beijing, studies of our air show it's probably going to kill me 5-10 years sooner than if I lived somewhere with clean air.

I'm seriously considering getting one of those cheap-ass Slate EVs at some point just to have an in-town beater to commute in; it would keep the miles off my truck and off road tires, be cheaper to run and maintain than my diesel, and keep the air cleaner.

 

[texanjeeper]

Indeed, but there were still serious problems unrelated to emissions requirements. Poor quality control, poor reliability; the fact that my truck is about to go to the shop to get a new hood, drivers door, passenger front door, driver's rear door, and tailgate (it should be all 4 doors, but the rust on one is on the inside so Stellantis told me to kick rocks)... you know, stuff like that.

I knew what I was in for when I picked the Gladiator, I've made peace with the decision to get a car that speaks to my emotions instead of my brain for the first time in my life. Still, it's obnoxious when a $60,000+ truck can't keep the weather on the outside of the roof.

I'm not mad about the hybrid, but I'm unhappy about all the quality issues. I'd actually like a hybrid truck I can plug in; I could really cut down on my fuel costs and probably drive to work and back entirely on electricity. My city regularly has worse air than Beijing, studies of our air show it's probably going to kill me 5-10 years sooner than if I lived somewhere with clean air.

I'm seriously considering getting one of those cheap-ass Slate EVs at some point just to have an in-town beater to commute in; it would keep the miles off my truck and off road tires, be cheaper to run and maintain than my diesel, and keep the air cleaner.

You realize, right, that the hybrid Wrangler was only getting about 40 miles? With the extra weight on the Gladiator, you might have milked out 20 extra miles out of it on battery. That's a sick joke.

 

[Sweetums]

Which is more than enough for me to get to work and back. Plus, unlike every dickhead driving around with a 30-pack of Natural Light in the passenger seat, I don't go out to the woods to hear my own engine. Being able to shut that off for short periods and creep up on the wildlife would be really nice. Then there's the torque of having electric motors assist the combustion engine...

Like I said, the idea of hybrid doesn't bother me, I really like it - the half-assed way Jeep implemented it and the half-assed way they do anything is what ticks me off.

 

[MPMB]

My city regularly has worse air than Beijing, studies of our air show it's probably going to kill me 5-10 years sooner than if I lived somewhere with clean air.

I'm seriously considering getting one of those cheap-ass Slate EVs at some point just to have an in-town beater to commute in; it would keep the miles off my truck and off road tires, be cheaper to run and maintain than my diesel, and keep the air cleaner.

The ironic thing is that it's likely the majority of the pollution is coming from three sources: The giant hole in the mountain across the valley, the giant disappearing drainage pond, and rapid construction everywhere.

I really doubt vehicles are playing into it much at all, other than the brodozers who have to roll coal every chance they get.

No one's ever going to say that, though. Too much money is in EV and EV-adjacent industry.

In 2019 Washington did away with emission testing of vehicles because emission tech and better mpgs improved, and the Puget Sound's air quality was better than it was in the 80s and 90s, despite growing massively.

If one of the most liberal, environmental-friendly states pulls back emission testing and cuts a gov't program... there's gotta be serious data it's not vehicles doing the polluting.

 

[ecidiego]

The most taxpayer subsidized thing on Earth is oil. Gasoline is cheap in the United States because of massive taxpayer subsidies. How much blood, sweat, and treasure have we spent in the Middle East for oil? My bad I forgot those wars were because we wanted to spread democracy.

Stating that EVs are taxpayer subsidized but not oil is one of the dumbest things I've heard in quite a while.

Same old tired, ignorant lines.

'They're not ready yet'
'I drive 1,000 miles a day'
'They need to build charging stations on every block first'

You'll notice that nobody who actually owns an EV says any of these things because it's all bullshit. EVs are absolute game changers that can save you a fortune. Just lol at paying for gas to drive to work/run errands. I'm in Palm Springs for Super Bowl weekend..... charged at home for free and will not have to charge to get home. Gladiator would have cost me $120 in gas. I guess that's what a smart person would do though right? EV's are all hype.

lmfao

 

[cb4017]

"Jeep CEO admits last CEO was bad"

Duh!

 

[Hootbro]

I'll bet that you're better than the last guy they had running it. His line would have been, I'm not a CEO but I play one on TV.

Tavares had plenty of other faults but I give him a pass on the EV thing as previously mentioned.

 

[YGBSM]

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