Manuals might be dead

[Paladin_JTR]

They might actually be dead for good now....or at least the Aisin D478. Jeep has a stop sale on them now after this recall went out. So yea for the time being manuals are dead, and this is why they stopped building any manual orders. Pulled this up with my VIN on MOPARs website.

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[jurfie]

OMG. Manuals are NOT DEAD. There is a big difference between "no longer available" and "not currently available".

 

[JeepCares]

@JeepCares , Now that the recall has been released, can you confirm that manual transmission orders will open up sometime in the future, and are not permanently closed? It would be great to end the rumors that M/T is dead if it's not.

At the moment, Our teams do not have any information regarding this. We recommend staying in contact with your dealer

Darlene
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[eternus]

Apparent "fanboi" here (who has had both manual and auto Jeeps). This manual doesn't run like crap. But sorry you're hurt about it and/or settled for an auto and regret it.

See, the odd subtle hate on me for having a different opinion is what I meant by fanboi. I'm not hurt about it and don't really care if others like it or dislike it. If it were awesome, people that aren't "Stick shift for life" would be singing it's praises. I've yet to hear anyone say it's great other than people that love it simply for not being an automatic. At the end of the day, it's YOUR vehicle and a) my opinion doesn't matter to you and b) your opinion means nothing to me. Enjoy your truck dude.

 

[SEPTIMO2019]

Not sure how I should feel about all this. Ordered my M/T JTR in December and took delivery in mid-February. Last week, with about 600 miles on the engine, the clutch pedal failed (bottomed out). After a tow into my dealer, they replaced the master cylinder. Based on their reporting, they attempted to bleed the brakes several times. When they took it for a test drive, the clutch pedal failed again in the exact way as it did for me. After a closer inspection, they reported noticing a hairline fracture in the “new” master cylinder. Now I am waiting on a third master cylinder to be installed early next week. The service department has been very professional about all this, but I wonder how this all relates to the recall and a stop on MT orders. I just want to be out Jeeping right now....

Update:
The third time was the charm. New master cylinder and the clutch pedal and shifting are perfect. Now on to the recall!!!!

 

[SEPTIMO2019]

I have both a 2019 JLU Sport S and a 2020 JTR. Both are M/Ts, and both are affected by the current recall (you can get the link on the M/T Club thread). Never had a problem with the clutch on my JLU (~8000 miles), and I have chronicled my currently-solved issues with the clutch on my JTR. Here is how I fell about the recall: the Chinese Symbol for “challenge” is the same symbol for “opportunity.” After FCA calculates the fix for this, everyone with a Manual Transmission will get a NEW clutch (read, any number of parts within the clutch system). Everyone who wants to buy/order an M/T will get a NEW (improved/more safe) clutch. At worst, everyone gets a new clutch. At best, we may all get upgrades to our systems that COULD improve the tow rating. Fun fact, my 2019 JLU had an FCA recall so the dealer could install a steering damper. The Jeep drove even better after that install. Fast forward to last month when I took delivery of my JTR order, low and behold, the same steering damper was installed as standard equipment on the JTR. In short, Everyone may come out a winner on this. Some will just have to wait longer for it.

 

[jimbom]

I have both a 2019 JLU Sport S and a 2020 JTR. Both are M/Ts, and both are affected by the current recall (you can get the link on the M/T Club thread). Never had a problem with the clutch on my JLU (~8000 miles), and I have chronicled my currently-solved issues with the clutch on my JTR. Here is how I fell about the recall: the Chinese Symbol for “challenge” is the same symbol for “opportunity.” After FCA calculates the fix for this, everyone with a Manual Transmission will get a NEW clutch (read, any number of parts within the clutch system). Everyone who wants to buy/order an M/T will get a NEW (improved/more safe) clutch. At worst, everyone gets a new clutch. At best, we may all get upgrades to our systems that COULD improve the tow rating. Fun fact, my 2019 JLU had an FCA recall so the dealer could install a steering damper. The Jeep drove even better after that install. Fast forward to last month when I took delivery of my JTR order, low and behold, the same steering damper was installed as standard equipment on the JTR. In short, Everyone may come out a winner on this. Some will just have to wait longer for it.

What was the problem/issue that the damper recall was addressing?

 

[Mark Doiron]

What was the problem/issue that the damper recall was addressing?

Jeep's weak response to death wobble.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/chrysler/2019/08/10/jeep-death-wobble-fix/1969368001/

 

[SEPTIMO2019]

Never had “death wobble” before or after the new damper went in. I do find the article interesting in that the Jeep owner who gave up on the vehicle because she didn’t trust the company to fix it, ultimately decided to buy a Durango....this just in, the Durango is also owned by FCA.

 

[flyinj]

Car & Driver Article on the Recall:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a31406165/jeep-gladiator-wrangler-recall-clutch/

 

[Mtneerdan]

Car & Driver Article on the Recall:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a31406165/jeep-gladiator-wrangler-recall-clutch/

33,237, that's a lot of damn clutches to change..

 

[5JeepsAz]

33 Thou MT on the road. No way they cancel! Huge numbers! Awesome.

 

[meon4wheels]

Just an FYI jeep just called and told me they will not be building my 2020 manual gladiator i ordered. They aren’t sure when production will (if) production will resume. Soooo if you want a stick find one on a lot now!!

Ordered and took delivery of my manual Gladiator Rubicon in October anticipating this may be the case. i'll only drive a manual Jeeps so guessing this will be my last purchase of a new vehicle from them.

 

[hjdca]

33,237, that's a lot of damn clutches to change..

I wonder how many of those are JTs ?

 

[Daeyis]

My truck was built after the feb 13th window for the recall. Here's to hoping they actually knew what the problem was and fixed it before mine was built.

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