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Folks, there's no way around it; the only model that can get Max Tow is the Sport S. All others have considerations (like weight) that lower their effective tow rating. Trying to say "my Rubicon has all the same equipment as the Sport S Max Tow, so it is a Max Tow" is omitting a lot of relevant information that affects the tow rating and is straight-up misleading to this thread.

If they could have given the Rubicon or Mojave the same tow rating as the Sport S Max Tow, they would have. But that's just not the case, no matter how you try to justify it.
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Not trying to mislead anyone; I am just asking questions. I understand the differences (such as the softer springs affecting the rating).
 

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Another difference in the Max Tow vs Mojave/Rubicon/etc is the tires. Smaller tire diameter than those other options changes the overall gearing and gives you more pulling power. Lighter overall weight tires means better braking capacity. Unless you are also stepping your Rubi down to 245/75R17 tires.
 

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It looks like my Mojave X has all of the components of a max tow package to me? The Mojave X is equipped with all of the features of the Max Tow Package. The extra 700 lbs may come from the GVW differences, but that seems like a lot. Tru-lock diff is a limited slip diff, just like the Trac-lock, when the locker is not engaged. Shocks are also upgrades, but the rear springs are rated a bit softer than the sport. Maybe the 700lb difference there! Am I wrong in this thinking, or am I missing something?
    • Max Tow Package Features:
        • Heavy-duty Dana 44 axles
        • 4.10 axle ratio
        • Class IV receiver hitch
        • Trailer hitch zoom
        • Heavy-duty engine cooling
        • All-terrain tires
        • 240-amp alternator
        • Trac-Lok rear differential
        • Other features: Daytime running lamps, black two-piece fender flares
Tru-Lok is an open diff when it's unlocked.
 

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lets compare. What does the MAX tow have that the Rubicon doesn't I am curious now. :)

My Gladiator has:
Wide HD axles w/ 4:10
Heavy duty cooling
270 amp alt
trailer tow package w/ flat and round connectors

It does not have:
brake controller
LSD
the extra 700 lbs tow capacity rating of max tow
The Max Tow package equipped trucks have lower curb weight, smaller tires, and most importantly a suspension set up to be able to handle the higher tow capacity and payload. Ever wonder why the Rubicon can tow up to 7k pounds while the Mojave is only rated for 6k despite having the same axles, gearing, tire size, and very similar curb weight? The reason is different suspension.

You have to understand that there's more to tow capacity than just having the power to pull something, the vehicle must also be able to control the load.

The Max Tow package enables an equipped truck to have the maximum possible tow capacity and payload possible for the Gladiator. Even when a Rubicon or Mojave may seem like they tick all the boxes on the equipment list for Max Tow, they still can't achieve that defining end goal.
 

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The Max Tow package equipped trucks have lower curb weight, smaller tires, and most importantly a suspension set up to be able to handle the higher tow capacity and payload. Ever wonder why the Rubicon can tow up to 7k pounds while the Mojave is only rated for 6k despite having the same axles, gearing, tire size, and very similar curb weight? The reason is different suspension.

You have to understand that there's more to tow capacity than just having the power to pull something, the vehicle must also be able to control the load.

The Max Tow package enables an equipped truck to have the maximum possible tow capacity and payload possible for the Gladiator. Even when a Rubicon or Mojave may seem like they tick all the boxes on the equipment list for Max Tow, they still can't achieve that defining end goal.
2025 Mojave X and 2025 Rubicon both have a 7k tow limit.
 

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Folks, there's no way around it; the only model that can get Max Tow is the Sport S. All others have considerations (like weight) that lower their effective tow rating. Trying to say "my Rubicon has all the same equipment as the Sport S Max Tow, so it is a Max Tow" is omitting a lot of relevant information that affects the tow rating and is straight-up misleading to this thread.

If they could have given the Rubicon or Mojave the same tow rating as the Sport S Max Tow, they would have. But that's just not the case, no matter how you try to justify it.
Well now we're getting technical but the Sport non-S can also be had with the Max Tow, as does my 2023.
 

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2025 Mojave X and 2025 Rubicon both have a 7k tow limit.
Per the current info on the Jeep.com website, yes. Sadly, I would say that info is unreliable, otherwise we are supposed to believe the 2024 Mojave X can only tow 4.5k pounds, the Rubicon can only tow 4.5k pounds, the Sport can only tow 4k pounds, etc. The official website has shown it's quite fallible numerous times. Even the official 2025 brochure contradicts what they have on their website (still shows maximum 6k for the Mojave/X).

Yet another example of why each JT should have its factory GCWR and tow rating printed on the vehicle like they do the GVWR and payload.
 

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Tru-lock diff is a limited slip diff, just like the Trac-lock, when the locker is not engaged.
The current model of Tru-Lok is an open differential when not locked. Been this way since the JK. The TJ Rubicon (both air and electric) lockers were limited slip when not locked.
 

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This is fun. I do understand payload for the most part. My window sticker and door decal both said 7k towing capacity. I know my softer springs limit payload but according to all the "stickers" there is a 700 LBS difference. We could also argue, if your towing 7700 lbs why buy a Gladiator LOL. To me and what "the paper" says the difference is marginal. I have had a full load in my truck and the brakes SUCK!!
Another difference in the Max Tow vs Mojave/Rubicon/etc is the tires. Smaller tire diameter than those other options changes the overall gearing and gives you more pulling power. Lighter overall weight tires means better braking capacity. Unless you are also stepping your Rubi down to 245/75R17 tires.
what is you step up to 35's LOL
 

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It looks like my Mojave X has all of the components of a max tow package to me? The Mojave X is equipped with all of the features of the Max Tow Package. The extra 700 lbs may come from the GVW differences, but that seems like a lot. Tru-lock diff is a limited slip diff, just like the Trac-lock, when the locker is not engaged. Shocks are also upgrades, but the rear springs are rated a bit softer than the sport. Maybe the 700lb difference there! Am I wrong in this thinking, or am I missing something?
    • Max Tow Package Features:
        • Heavy-duty Dana 44 axles
        • 4.10 axle ratio
        • Class IV receiver hitch
        • Trailer hitch zoom
        • Heavy-duty engine cooling
        • All-terrain tires
        • 240-amp alternator
        • Trac-Lok rear differential
        • Other features: Daytime running lamps, black two-piece fender flares
My head scratcher too. I think it is the springs that are the contributing factor.
 

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Thank you everyone for this delightful debate. I think my curb weight increased due to the color matched fenders (and extra skid plates)
 

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anyone know where they put the 4 extra gallons of gas? my tank only take 22 gals no matter how low i let it get and i've ran it dry once.
 

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Per the current info on the Jeep.com website, yes. Sadly, I would say that info is unreliable, otherwise we are supposed to believe the 2024 Mojave X can only tow 4.5k pounds, the Rubicon can only tow 4.5k pounds, the Sport can only tow 4k pounds, etc. The official website has shown it's quite fallible numerous times. Even the official 2025 brochure contradicts what they have on their website (still shows maximum 6k for the Mojave/X).

Yet another example of why each JT should have its factory GCWR and tow rating printed on the vehicle like they do the GVWR and payload.
Wow, they are all over the place on the website. I agree maybe the 2025 Mojave X isn't 7k lbs.
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