Official EcoDiesel Oil and Filter Recommendations

[LOL WUT]

I updated the front page with a list of oil filters for the 3rd gen EcoDiesel.

Oil filter:
Mopar, part# 68507598AA
EcoGard, part# S11880
Fram, part# TG12939
STP, part# S45027XL
MicroGard, part# MSL10614
‎Allmotorparts, part# AMP255
ONER, part#‎ OAP-68507598AA
Purolator, part# PL31780
MAHLE CLEVITE, part# OX1406
Vaico, part# V33-0557

Thanks! Any thoughts on Docs Diesel oil filter?

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[biodiesel]

Thanks! Any thoughts on Docs Diesel oil filter?

The Doc's filter holds 9 grams of soot/dirt/debris compared to Mopar's 16 grams of capacity. For that reason, I would not run Doc's.

The Doc's somehow got left off the list. I just added it to the front page.

 

[rharr]

The Doc's filter holds 9 grams of soot/dirt/debris compared to Mopar's 16 grams of capacity. For that reason, I would not run Doc's.

The Doc's somehow got left off the list. I just added it to the front page.

or just change your oil and filter at 3500 miles instead of the 10k or what ever crazy value they state.

 

[LOL WUT]

The Doc's filter holds 9 grams of soot/dirt/debris compared to Mopar's 16 grams of capacity. For that reason, I would not run Doc's.

The Doc's somehow got left off the list. I just added it to the front page.

Thanks so much for the information. I’ll put this back on the shelf and keep it for emergent situations.

 

[22EcoDs]

I wonder when someone will run the hotshots oil.

 

[biodiesel]

Thanks so much for the information. I’ll put this back on the shelf and keep it for emergent situations.

I don't have the specs in front of me, but from the testing that's been done, the only filter that was better than Mopar was EcoGard. An economical alternative for the Mopar filter is LuberFiner.

 

[LOL WUT]

I don't have the specs in front of me, but from the testing that's been done, the only filter that was better than Mopar was EcoGard. An economical alternative for the Mopar filter is LuberFiner.

Much appreciated, I just went ahead and ordered the Mopar filter. Easy peace of mind.

 

[RudeJeepin]

I updated the front page with a list of oil filters for the 3rd gen EcoDiesel.

Oil filter:
Mopar, part# 68507598AA
EcoGard, part# S11880
Fram, part# TG12939
STP, part# S45027XL
MicroGard, part# MSL10614
‎Allmotorparts, part# AMP255
ONER, part#‎ OAP-68507598AA
Purolator, part# PL31780
MAHLE CLEVITE, part# OX1406
Vaico, part# V33-0557

Wix has an oil filter, part # WL10614. Which is almost the same number as MicroGard. I thought MG and Purolator were in cohoots together.

 

[biodiesel]

Wix has an oil filter, part # WL10614.

Thank you. I just added Wix to the front page.

 

[biodiesel]

Much appreciated, I just went ahead and ordered the Mopar filter. Easy peace of mind.

Mopar is a good filter. I did find the specs for the EcoGard. The micron rating is 99.83% efficient @ 20 microns, 99.91% efficient @ 25 microns and 99.95% efficient @ 30 microns. The Mopar is closer to 36 microns 99.95% efficient. I've also been told that the EcoGard has a higher capacity than Mopar, but I don't have the numbers written down.

Truthfully, it's hard to know how the quality of these filters will impact longevity. The EcoDiesel is a light duty engine that has a B10 rating of 150,000-miles. That's not to say these engines are only built to last 150,000 miles, but it does mean that 150,000 miles is considered a full useful life. It's like looking at a bell-shaped curve. After 150,000 miles, you're on the downside of the bell curve (higher chances of component failure). B10 means that 10% of the fleet is expected to either experience a major repair or engine failure by 150,000 miles.

I personally like to run good quality oils and filters because it helps me sleep better at night and it gives me confidence when I'm out on the road pushing my vehicles. Realistically, the data shows that I'll most likely experience a cooling issue or component failure long before I experience an oil related issue.

I don't believe in extended intervals on an emissions compliant diesel simply due to soot abrasion. An aftermarket tune will clean up the combustion and lower soot, so that's when extended intervals make more sense.

If you have a stock Jeep, then I would recommend 5,000-mile oil changes. If you have a deleted truck with MrTuning, then I would consider 10,000-mile oil changes.

 

[22EcoDs]

Wix has an oil filter, part # WL10614. Which is almost the same number as MicroGard. I thought MG and Purolator were in cohoots together.

Ouch that's $$$

 

[GladiatorPilot23]

The Doc's filter holds 9 grams of soot/dirt/debris compared to Mopar's 16 grams of capacity. For that reason, I would not run Doc's.

The Doc's somehow got left off the list. I just added it to the front page.

If you can some specs like this next to the filters, it will help people chose the better ones if you have more test specs saved?

 

[Bananaman]

Whew. Read through all 47 pages of this!
My conclusion, and correct me if I'm wrong, is, stick with oils with the MS-12991 and API SN certification to be in the clear if a warranty issue would arise, but sticking with the MS-12991 oils will probably clog your DPF sooner than later.
Wording in the manual seems to allow a non MS-12991 oil as long as it's API SN or newer, usually meaning that that oil has a lower SAPS and would in theory extend the life of your DPF.
Testing looks like the AMSOIL 5W-40 AFL might be the best in that group for low SAPS and great shear protection. Rotella T6 seems like it would also work, but I understand use at your own risk.
It is very interesting though, that one of the premier tuners for these engines (GDE), uses T6 in his Wrangler. Wonder if he has done any analysis tests?
Thank you @biodiesel for all the hard work putting this together!

 

[biodiesel]

My conclusion, and correct me if I'm wrong, is, stick with oils with the MS-12991 and API SN certification to be in the clear if a warranty issue would arise, but sticking with the MS-12991 oils will probably clog your DPF sooner than later.

I'm impressed. But yes, you interpreted all that information correctly!

Testing looks like the AMSOIL 5W-40 AFL might be the best in that group for low SAPS and great shear protection.

Amsoil 5W-40 AFL is a very good oil.

It is very interesting though, that one of the premier tuners for these engines (GDE), uses T6 in his Wrangler. Wonder if he has done any analysis tests?

Yes, he did an oil analysis back when they were testing his tune.

Thank you @biodiesel for all the hard work putting this together!

It's a community effort, but I'm happy to get the discussion started.

 

[Rusty PW]

Got my test results back from Blackstone on my latest oil change. Still can't copy and paste it. Don't know why it won't do it.

Oil is Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40. 3rd oil change using it. Miles on JT. 47,260. Miles on oil, 7,130.

Though still a bit high, it's nice to see aluminum as stable as it is. Not every engine ends up wearing exactly the same and aluminum hasn't settled all that far from the average range. Other metals are stable as well, and after a
longer run that shows improvement in the wear rates (ppm per mile). There's nothing amiss in the physical properties. The TBN was 7.4 - plenty of active additive left considering 2.0 is what we call low. Feel free to stick with this oil.

Aluminum is 19. The last 3 oil change has been 19. Fuel in oil is <0.5%. Everything else is in the universal averages.

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