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This happened not too far from my home. Unfortunately, this is happening far too often around here as people seem to be in a hurry. I have witnessed high school kids racing down a major highway (minutes after school let out) causing reckless mayhem and passing multiple law enforcement who just sat and played like they didn't see anything.
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Awful situation.

If one party was carrying, then most likely one person loses their life.

If both parties are carrying, then either one or both most likely lose their life.

If no one involved in this situation were carrying then both parties would most likely still be alive (though maybe a little beaten up after trading swings).

Something to think about.
 

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Awful situation.

If one party was carrying, then most likely one person loses their life.

If both parties are carrying, then either one or both most likely lose their life.

If no one involved in this situation were carrying then both parties would most likely still be alive (though maybe a little beaten up after trading swings).

Something to think about.
Also something to think about: if someone is road raging on you(especially if its a Muppet), don’t escalate the situation. That muppet may have a gun and end your life with it.
Not to victim blame, but we don’t know what transpired or if the victim was the initial antagonizer in this incident. He didn’t deserve to lose his life over it, but how many other times was he involved in an incident like this until, finally he met this maniacal Meep.
 

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Also something to think about: if someone is road raging on you(especially if its a Muppet), don’t escalate the situation. That muppet may have a gun and end your life with it.
Not to victim blame, but we don’t know what transpired or if the victim was the initial antagonizer in this incident. He didn’t deserve to lose his life over it, but how many other times was he involved in an incident like this until, finally he met this maniacal Meep.
Yup. Just let em go, pass, whatever - you never know who is going to be crazy and it just isn’t worth it.
 

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Also something to think about: if someone is road raging on you(especially if its a Muppet), don’t escalate the situation. That muppet may have a gun and end your life with it.
Not to victim blame, but we don’t know what transpired or if the victim was the initial antagonizer in this incident. He didn’t deserve to lose his life over it, but how many other times was he involved in an incident like this until, finally he met this maniacal Meep.
Gonna disagree pretty hard here. Doesn't really matter what the victim did on the road, the guy following him only did so because he felt safe enough by having a gun and was obviously more than ready to use it...even if the situation didn't call for it. He made the choice to pursue all the way to where the other guy lived, and then when confronted chose to open fire. He did the exact opposite of disengaging with every decision he made. At that point, it doesn't matter who started it.

I am willing to bet that had that guy not been armed, he would not have been so brazen to get anywhere near that situation. This is the problem with the firearm in this particular story: it wasn't used as self-defense but rather to boost confidence in creating a deadly situation.
 

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I read the story...The guy who allegedly shot the other guy, if convicted, should go to jail for a long time. There is no place for that.

But listen. If you're the guy in the JT. Don't get out of the truck and approach another car. Just don't do it. This guy would be alive if he just would've driven home. Let it lie. It's better to be alive than to get one up on a d-bag.
 

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It’s this type of bullshit that gives the gun community (and guns) a bad reputation….and that’s all you see on the news - the bad shit.

Believe it or not people….. This is NOT what responsible gun ownership is about and not what responsible gun owners do. PERIOD.

I could go on…and on…..
 

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Awful situation.

If one party was carrying, then most likely one person loses their life.

If both parties are carrying, then either one or both most likely lose their life.

If no one involved in this situation were carrying then both parties would most likely still be alive (though maybe a little beaten up after trading swings).

Something to think about.
Or if people didn't act like assholes it wouldn't happen. Face it, assholes carry guns. They just do. Laws don't apply to them.
 

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Awful situation.

If one party was carrying, then most likely one person loses their life.

If both parties are carrying, then either one or both most likely lose their life.

If no one involved in this situation were carrying then both parties would most likely still be alive (though maybe a little beaten up after trading swings).

Something to think about.
Just because you are carrying, doesn’t mean you have to use it. Lots of responsible gun owners carry everyday and all around you.

C’mon…… Why would you feel the need to follow someone home? That’s pure intent. Intent to confront….and things escalate from there. Guns, knives, fists, baseball bats, tire iron, hammer…… doesn’t matter. The aggression is already in place.
 

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Or if people didn't act like assholes it wouldn't happen. Face it, assholes carry guns. They just do. Laws don't apply to them.
Yup….. between guns that are stolen, and/or purchased illegally, ….. is baffling.
https://ammo.com/articles/stolen-gun-statistics

The bad guys and the assholes will always find ways to get guns and weapons regardless of all the laws & regulations in place.

Keep your guns locked up or on your hip!!
 

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I doubt the living party (in custody) was carrying legally.
The dead party probably wished that he was carrying and trained.

Let it go folks. Road rage is just pride and stupidity.
 

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Gonna disagree pretty hard here. Doesn't really matter what the victim did on the road, the guy following him only did so because he felt safe enough by having a gun and was obviously more than ready to use it...even if the situation didn't call for it. He made the choice to pursue all the way to where the other guy lived, and then when confronted chose to open fire. He did the exact opposite of disengaging with every decision he made. At that point, it doesn't matter who started it.

I am willing to bet that had that guy not been armed, he would not have been so brazen to get anywhere near that situation. This is the problem with the firearm in this particular story: it wasn't used as self-defense but rather to boost confidence in creating a deadly situation.
Like I said. An asshole. Assholes don't abide by laws. They only care about what they want. I am always armed. I have no intention of harming anyone else. Period.

I avoid idiots on the road always. I teach my daughter to just let them go ahead of you. It costs you a few seconds out of your day.

However, there are a group of people that no matter how reasonable you are, and no matter how much space you give them, it is never enough. They are simply looking to hurt people.

It's THOSE people that make me carry a firearm.

They are not reasonable, heck, they are barely human.
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