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Bumper is coming this week. I’ve never had a winch and will probably rarely use it. I’m looking at the Rough Country 9500 with synthetic line for $399, the Badlands Apex for $480, or the Smittybilt 9.5 or 10k . In reality, just wondering if the Apex is with the extra $100. It does seem to have a nicer hook; not sure that’s worth $100.
 

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Bumper is coming this week. I’ve never had a winch and will probably rarely use it. I’m looking at the Rough Country 9500 with synthetic line for $399, the Badlands Apex for $480, or the Smittybilt 9.5 or 10k . In reality, just wondering if the Apex is with the extra $100. It does seem to have a nicer hook; not sure that’s worth $100.
The Apex is a 12000lb winch with synthetic line. The extra 2000-2500lbs worth of pulling is worth $100
 

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I have a warn VR8 sitting in my garage that is pretty much new. I took it off a 4runner I traded in.
I had planned to keep it if I have any need for it. Is there any reason to hold onto it for my gladiator since It is new and I have it in my posession? If not, I can just try to sell it and maybe get some kind of other parts. My gladiator is all stock for now.
 

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I have read through this thread and there is a lot of good information about more technical aspects of winching. I appreciate everyone sharing, and I have a small contribution as well, I am more of a visual kinda guy and hope this helps someone out as well.
 

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I have a warn VR8 sitting in my garage that is pretty much new. I took it off a 4runner I traded in.
I had planned to keep it if I have any need for it. Is there any reason to hold onto it for my gladiator since It is new and I have it in my posession? If not, I can just try to sell it and maybe get some kind of other parts. My gladiator is all stock for now.
8k is a bit light for a Gladiator but you could run it with a snatch block - definitely better than nothing. I’m running a Warn Zeon 10s and it seems pretty good and fast.
 

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How does that work? The rating of the winch is based on things like the drum size, cooling, power intake, etc. From page 16 of the SB manual

With 85ft of line on the drum the winch pulls 6300lbs. With 40ft of line on the drum it pulls 8850lbs. That is about half the line on the drum remaining (equivalent to a snatch block letting out twice as much line) yet pull only went up 40%. What am I failing to understand?
Simple physics of a pulley system.

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Like a lever as well. You can double force but something has to give - so you halve the distance moved.
It's work, and work is something like multiplying the force by the amount of movement.
Hydraulics, levers, pulleys, whatever.
If you want to lift more weight with a hydraulic cylinder, you can double the square inches of the piston, lift twice as much weight, but it will move half as far.
So you have done the SAME amount of work even though you moved it half as far because you moved twice as much.
You need to move 100 pounds, you have only 50 pounds of force. Using pulleys you can double your force - so you can still do it but will cut the distance in half in the process.

I think work usually involves Newtons and meters - Newtons for the force, Meters for the distance.

Work = F x D where F is force and D is distance.
 

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I’m currently looking at a Smittybilt X2O COMP - Waterproof Synthetic Rope Winch - 12,000
 

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