Clutch Recall (2/23/23): Clutch Pressure Plate May Overheat -- Affecting 70,000 Manual Jeep Wranglers and Gladiators

[corey21rubicon]

You really can't block people in this forum?

Sponsored

 

[Rahkmalla]

"We know we messed up, it was our fault and it's a faulty part but now that we told you and offer you absolutely no fix or reimbursement you cannot sue us if you still need to use the vehicle you purchased from us for transportation and your family burns alive as a result" - Jeep

That is what you are saying.

Man, i've seem some misreadings in my day, but this is full on putting words in his mouth

What he said was they acknowledged the recall to dissuade lawsuits or offset potential maximum claims, not to legally prevent them.

I had meaner things to say on other subjects, but let's just dial it back and say: you shouldn't be questioning the IQ of others at the same time as making fundamental comprehension errors to simple statements.

 

[bajt]

I know you’re just angry but man this forum HATES jeeps. Just like the windshield folk or death wobble folk. They think everyone has their problem and that it’s somehow specific to jeep and not only that but through some negligence.

deep breaths.
It is starting to get to about the time I’d expect a fix to be announced tho.

anyway. The recall was specifically instated to AVOID a lawsuit is all I really had to add. Like putting a traffic cone on the crack in the sidewalk.

Max. Just to set the record straight. I don't hate Jeeps - I quite like them actually with all their quirks. But in my case the truck was becoming very dangerous to drive (clutch was overheating/slipping like crazy, leading to stalls which almost got me rear-ended), and so I forked over a bunch of $$ to replace it with an aftermarket option so that I feel safe. Then, when I asked for a reimbursement (even partial) I got stonewalled twice .

As far as this being my fault - that is a categorical no. The clutch started fuming since 1-2K miles. They replaced the master cylinder as a "remedy" under warranty, did the bs firmware upgrade and yet nothing. The clutch kept heating up and occasionally fuming, until it started really slipping. And I really have not done any "dumm" stuff. My nissan 2000 frontier clutch lasted forever and never had these problems, and so far the aftermarket clutch has been fantastic. So, I am certain that the problem was that clutch on my vehicle, and it would be nice if I got some patial reimbursement for my troubles and not get stonewalled. I guess that if the big truck had actually rear-ended me when the clutch slipped and stalled, I would be getting a very different treatment from FCA. Or not.. who knows.

 

[Max-t]

Sigh…..

 

[bajt]

Sigh…..

I could construe this reply either as empathy, or as mockery. I'd chose the former for now, since I don't think you are here to troll people.

 

[Hamandcamo]

Going to revive this thread.

I was wondering if anyone has seen an update on this recall, or, what happens when your vehicle goes out of warranty and you still want this recall to be addressed.

@JeepCares

 

[4xjeepr]

Going to revive this thread.

I was wondering if anyone has seen an update on this recall, or, what happens when your vehicle goes out of warranty and you still want this recall to be addressed.

@JeepCares

If I'm not mistaken, and pretty sure I'm not, in or out of warranty, Jeep must honor the recall and repair/replace any recall item without cost to the owner. No new info that I've seen or received from Jeep or anyone else. Everyone is still in limbo. Well...except for those whom have installed aftermarket clutches.
Like the military "Hurry up and wait".

 

[cranbiz]

If I'm not mistaken, and pretty sure I'm not, in or out of warranty, Jeep must honor the recall and repair/replace any recall item without cost to the owner. No new info that I've seen or received from Jeep or anyone else. Everyone is still in limbo. Well...except for those whom have installed aftermarket clutches.
Like the military "Hurry up and wait".

You are not mistaken. Any recall is covered by the manufacturer, regardless of warranty status at no charge to the consumer. When Jeep finally got replacement Takada airbags for the recall, my 2012 JK which was far out of warranty, the airbag was replaced at no charge to me.

 

[ErrngeElise]

So I have been monitoring the production of 6MTs since my order went into regress due to the recall. Mine still isn't built but a couple weeks ago I noticed that on the nationwide inventory search 6MTs were showing as "being built" status. Then seemingly overnight almost all of them moved to "in transit" status and they all had window stickers available that showed the 6MT. Jeep definitely is back producing 6MT JLs and JTs. People have taken delivery of their JLs and today I just found one JT that was on the list of vehicles I discovered to be in production last week has been delivered to a dealer in Ohio (so close to the factory).

https://www.sarchionecdjr.com/new-Dalton-2023-Jeep-GLADIATOR-RUBICON+4X4-1C6JJTBG6PL529935

It is a 6MT and if you search the Jeep recalls and enter this VIN it shows as having the latest clutch recall completed.

Attached is a spreadsheet that I made when I saw a bunch of 6MTs "being built" and "in transit." There are 40 on this list and while I'm sure that's not all of them, they are tougher to find because you have to sift through a bunch of 8-speed autos because Jeep's inventory search site sucks. I was keeping this spreadsheet just to find one delivered to a dealer with photos showing it with the 6MT. This is the first one I noticed. I suspect more will be showing up at dealers soon.

Hopefully mine actually goes into production soon and hopefully that means that parts might start making it to service centers to address the recall for current owners.

 

[Rahkmalla]

Hopefully mine actually goes into production soon and hopefully that means that parts might start making it to service centers to address the recall for current owners.

As is tradition, they will build every ordered unit (customer or dealer built) in their pipeline first, then every on-the-lot but unsellable unit second, before starting to fix customer vehicles out there driving around. I don't expect Jeep to get to me any time soon.

 

[ErrngeElise]

oh and here is another from that batch with actual photos at a dealer https://www.saffordofwinchester.com...ator-sport-4wd-4d-crew-cab-1c6hjtag9pl538774/

 

[ErrngeElise]

As is tradition, they will build every ordered unit (customer or dealer built) in their pipeline first, then every on-the-lot but unsellable unit second, before starting to fix customer vehicles out there driving around. I don't expect Jeep to get to me any time soon.

Of course they will but there are still people screaming that they still don't have a fix. They have it, its just not available to you yet. Its a start.
For a little more background as to why I'm optimistic
1. I noticed the JLs going back into production as far back as at least May 4th. That is when I noticed the numbers on jeeptracker.com start changing and jeeps moving to build status
2. At the time I didn't know those were all JLs but later all of those numbers stopped after they put 40-50 into production. None of those moved to "built" status until 6/15 and some of the JL people were getting information that they were waiting for an additional software update. I took that to mean they had the hardware to build them and could hurry up and do it before changing JLs to 2024 models but had to hold them until the software update was ready.
3. All of those finally started moving to built, shipped, and delivered status recently, but no JTs were being produced it seems. A couple weeks ago was the first time I had seen any JTs show as "being built" and then they quickly got window stickers and shipped.

But if they were waiting on clutches, new clutches started going in at the beginning of May. Its mid-July now, production of clutches from suppliers should be rolling at a steady rate now.

 

[tarndesigns]

So it looks like they're slowly but surely getting through the backlog... and our VINs are coming up soon I hope!

 

[redriderjf87]

Really curious to hear what the actual "fix" is

 

[Rahkmalla]

Of course they will but there are still people screaming that they still don't have a fix

This is a matter of perception. If they have a fix inaccessible to me, is that any functionally different from not having a fix?

I've never been on the screaming about it side, but i do have empathy for those concerned that 5 months after they announce (again) their gladiator could catch on fire they still are just barely rolling this out.

For what it's worth: the most realistic scenario is that they knew how to fix it definitively LONG before the 3rd recall was announced, and have spent the first two recalls plus the intervening months trying to figure out how to fix it the cheapest way possible.

I may not be loud about it, but i have compassion for those that are.

Sponsored