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Following this thread with great interest, since my truck is a manual too. Not happy with Jeep’s lack of progress in this matter obviously. But there doesn’t seem to be any indication in that article that the fire started from a transmission failure. Surely there are many other ways a car fire can start.
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Is jeep making any progress at all? Any rumors? The crappy thing is that, right now, my truck is worthless with an open recall. If jeep won't fix it, I kind of just want to trade both of ours for manual Broncos.

But, I can't, no one wants to buy a vehicle with an open recall. Were left holding the bag. It seems like they've had plenty of time to figure this out. And it's no mystery. It's not like they're pioneering some innovative new technology.

I could fix it myself with an aftermarket clutch, but officially, it'd still have an open recall.

Alas, preaching to the choir. I'm sure no one at FCA/Stellantis is reading this stuff.
 

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FWIW, I ordered a 6MT Mojave on 2/1/23... Not much info since then, just delays.

Looks like a fix has been found though, as my truck is estimated to begin production on 9/18
 

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The Facebook group is pretty active with people sharing failures and experiences getting preemptively or retroactively reimbursed. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason why some get a check and others don't. Nothing affirmative on what the actual fix is yet but I'm not holding my breath for anything less of a piece of crap that's already in there.
 

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Is jeep making any progress at all? Any rumors? The crappy thing is that, right now, my truck is worthless with an open recall. If jeep won't fix it, I kind of just want to trade both of ours for manual Broncos.

But, I can't, no one wants to buy a vehicle with an open recall. Were left holding the bag. It seems like they've had plenty of time to figure this out. And it's no mystery. It's not like they're pioneering some innovative new technology.

I could fix it myself with an aftermarket clutch, but officially, it'd still have an open recall.

Alas, preaching to the choir. I'm sure no one at FCA/Stellantis is reading this stuff.
I’m not sure the open recall makes your truck worthless. A friend just went from a manual gladiator to a new electric car and sold his truck to car max for 5k less than he bought it 2 years ago.
 

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Quote from the link from the denial of claim letter Jeep sent to the owner whose truck and entire mobile grooming business burned down:

" While we regret your dissatisfaction, we hope you can understand our position "

aka: "go fuck yourself"

I'm amazed that in the article she states she bought another gladiator (auto this time). as much as I love my truck... if it burns down and jeep hides behind some weak excuse to deny any fault for having an open recall for 6 months with zero fix (when everyone on this forum knows Jeep knows the fix and are just trying to spend less money), i'd tell jeep to go fuck themselves right back.
It pisses me off that all the auto makers wash their hands of any fire incident. To me, it is warranty claim the same as if your engine or transmission blew up, just in the case of fire, you replace the vehicle or buy the customer out minus mileage use.

It will never happen but I wish the FTC would turn the screws on the auto makers over things like this.
 

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News articles rarely have all the info needed to make an informed decision though. The woman who’s truck burned down could have had tons of poorly wired lights or other electric accessories installed. If so, why would the manufacturer be on the hook for replacing the vehicle. I can’t of course say she did, but it also doesn’t say she didn’t. The article is interested in making the story sound sensational for more views, not more accurate. For example, how heavy was the trailer she was towing?
 

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Let's not ignore the fact that it was a woman driving a manual transmission truck whilst towing. That clutch has lived a rough life.

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Let's not ignore the fact that it was a woman driving a manual transmission truck whilst towing. That clutch has lived a rough life.

-Bigot, probably
I had no intention of making the word “woman” operative in my response, just used it for accuracy since the article mentions it. Sorry if it came across like I was victim-blaming. Just trying to say news outlets don’t seem to provide all the facts of a case. Perhaps there was info available to Jeep that’s not published that indicated the cause may have been something else, or maybe they’re being jerks about this situation and denying responsibility on a technicality in the fire dept’s report. Just can’t tell at this point and throwing blame around based on a news article is jumping to conclusions without having all the facts. But that’s just broadly true, it’s a news article, not an in-depth report of the situation. People seem to be happy to use their pre-existing feelings to fill in the blanks and make connections where none existed.
 

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I had no intention of making the word “woman” operative in my response, just used it for accuracy since the article mentions it. Sorry if it came across like I was victim-blaming. Just trying to say news outlets don’t seem to provide all the facts of a case. Perhaps there was info available to Jeep that’s not published that indicated the cause may have been something else, or maybe they’re being jerks about this situation and denying responsibility on a technicality in the fire dept’s report. Just can’t tell at this point and throwing blame around based on a news article is jumping to conclusions without having all the facts. But that’s just broadly true, it’s a news article, not an in-depth report of the situation. People seem to be happy to use their pre-existing feelings to fill in the blanks and make connections where none existed.
She posted this story on Facebook. There were 2 around the same time. One was from her husband leaving the generator running in the back while driving around. I can't remember if it was this one or the other. I remember one was a grooming business for sure. But I distinctly remember one of them admitting that they actually caused the fire. And that Gladiator has a massive generator in the back you can see it in the video.
 

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She posted this story on Facebook. There were 2 around the same time. One was from her husband leaving the generator running in the back while driving around. I can't remember if it was this one or the other. I remember one was a grooming business for sure. But I distinctly remember one of them admitting that they actually caused the fire. And that Gladiator has a massive generator in the back you can see it in the video.
All of what you're saying could very well be true, but the idea that any manufaturer would respond with a denial before investigating... let's not pretend their response "we sent that out too early" is reality. They sent it out exactly when they meant to send it out, then backtracked on needing to investigate when a news organization wants to start writing articles.
 

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I had no intention of making the word “woman” operative in my response, just used it for accuracy since the article mentions it. Sorry if it came across like I was victim-blaming. Just trying to say news outlets don’t seem to provide all the facts of a case. Perhaps there was info available to Jeep that’s not published that indicated the cause may have been something else, or maybe they’re being jerks about this situation and denying responsibility on a technicality in the fire dept’s report. Just can’t tell at this point and throwing blame around based on a news article is jumping to conclusions without having all the facts. But that’s just broadly true, it’s a news article, not an in-depth report of the situation. People seem to be happy to use their pre-existing feelings to fill in the blanks and make connections where none existed.
Oh, I was just being an overtly pseudo-misogynistic troll. Not directed at you, or really even anybody else.
 

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For those who don't want to gamble on Jeep's "fix", here's a deal for you:
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Recall notice just issued by NHTSA:

Subject : Clutch Pressure Plate May Overheat

Your vehicle MAY be involved in a safety recall and MAY create a safety risk for you or your passengers. If left unrepaired, a potential safety defect could lead to injury or even death. Safety defects must be repaired by a dealer at no cost to you.

Why am I getting this email?
You are receiving this message because you requested to be notified by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) if there is a safety recall that mayaffect your vehicle.

The following may apply to one or more of your vehicles if your vehicle is listed below. Click on the NHTSA Recall ID Number below to read more about the safety issue and the reason for the recall.

To find out if your specific passenger vehicle is included in the recall, use our VIN Look-up Tool.

NHTSA Recall ID Number :23V116
Manufacturer :Chrysler (FCA US, LLC)
Subject :Clutch Pressure Plate May Overheat
MakeModelModel Years
JEEPGLADIATOR2020-2023
JEEPWRANGLER2018-2023


What is a recall?
When a manufacturer or the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) determines that a vehicle creates an unreasonable risk to safety or fails to meet minimum safety standards, the manufacturer is required to fix that vehicle at no cost to the owner. That can be done by repairing it, replacing it, offering a refund (for equipment) or, in rare cases, repurchasing the car.

What should I do if my vehicle is included in this recall?
If your vehicle is included in this recall, it is very important that you get it fixed as soon as possible given the potential danger to you and your passengers if it is not addressed. You should receive a separate letter in the mail from the vehicle manufacturer, notifying you of the recall and explaining when the remedy will be available, whom to contact to repair your vehicle, and to remind you that the repair will be done at no charge to you. If you believe your vehicle is included in the recall, but you do not receive a letter in the mail from the vehicle manufacturer, please call NHTSA's Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236, or contact your vehicle manufacturer or dealership.

Thank you for your attention to this important safety matter and for your commitment to helping save lives on America's roadways.

Additional Resources
Understanding Vehicle Recalls
Recalls FAQ

Thank you,

National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
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I expect that some of the problems are the nut behind the wheel (i.e. poor experience with a MT).
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