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  • Mid-Cycle Action [refresh] updating the Jeep Gladiator (JT) in 2023

Ok what about this? 2023 is done and 2023 is just about done. Could this mean a 2024 mid refresh or did I miss something?
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I'm glad I bought my gladiator in 2020. I like the truck fine enough, but the prices for these are simply too high. 2012 engine, axles designed in the early 1900s, etc. etc. I wouldn't buy a gladiator again in 2023, and I can't wait to see how stratospherically high they price the hybrids.
 

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  • Mid-Cycle Action [refresh] updating the Jeep Gladiator (JT) in 2023

Ok what about this? 2023 is done and 2023 is just about done. Could this mean a 2024 mid refresh or did I miss something?
Pretty sure this is just the updated dash with the new larger display like the Wrangler got earlier this year. Oh, and electric seats as an option. ;)
 

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I'm glad I bought my gladiator in 2020. I like the truck fine enough, but the prices for these are simply too high. 2012 engine, axles designed in the early 1900s, etc. etc. I wouldn't buy a gladiator again in 2023, and I can't wait to see how stratospherically high they price the hybrids.
Take the current price, add 5-7k that's the price. By the time you take the credit it's usually cheaper than the equivalent non-hybrid version. That's how the 4xe has been for all the 4xe models.
 

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"Next generation Jeep Wrangler (J70)"

I won't get into the EV vs ICE argument, but I am oddly curious about the J70 designator.
 

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Wonder if Gladiator will have a new hybrid setup or same as the current 4xe.
 

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That article is from 2019. Battery tech has already made technological strides since then. Anyone still not convinced of EVs viability at this point are like the lamp lighters of yore. They fought tooth and nail to convince everyone why oil lamps were superior to the new electric streetlamps. But how many lamplighters are there now?

I own enough vehicles to count on two hands. Only one is an EV but I know it’s technologically superior to every other gas powered car/motorcycle i’ve got. Still, I’ll keep buying the antiquated tech as long as they’re sold, because I like that living/breathing feel you get only with a combustion engine.
It was not so much about the age of the article as it (for me) was about the environmental impact on things around it. Yes technology has come a long way since then. But we still have the impact of the mines. Living in Nevada and Tesla being at our doorstep. Not to mention all the mines that are here plus all the destruction they leave. Not all but I would say some mines leave behind and environmental mess. Some of these companies aren't even from the US. They don't care about what or who is left to deal with it.
 

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It was not so much about the age of the article as it (for me) was about the environmental impact on things around it. Yes technology has come a long way since then. But we still have the impact of the mines. Living in Nevada and Tesla being at our doorstep. Not to mention all the mines that are here plus all the destruction they leave. Not all but I would say some mines leave behind and environmental mess. Some of these companies aren't even from the US. They don't care about what or who is left to deal with it.
No one can disagree with that, but oil and natural gas extraction leave a horrible mess as well. And then they pollute the air after the fact. Nothing is perfect, but at least electric propulsion doesn’t pollute while the vehicles are running.
 

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Hmmm, the REVPB is interesting. Sounds exactly like what Audi did in their Dakar race entry vehicle.

I gotta think sales will be taking a hit on the JT if the only new powertrain option is in 25. The new models in the mid size market with their more powerful engines (and cheaper prices) the Ranger, Canyon and Toyota are all hitting with substantially more power are going to put a hurting on sales IMO. Stellantis really needs to somehow get the Hurricane into the JT.
if toyota puts the twin turbo v6 in the tacoma and they launch that prerunner.......yeah, its gonna be nasty.

Id love a 392 JT, but i couldnt afford it with these interest rates so for me, im not the target audience.
 

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Not to turn this into a general EV discussion but Teslas to me have given EVs a bad rap. They are boring to drive, quality sucks, and the interiors are absolutely horrendous. I wasn’t really sold on EVs from my Tesla Model 3 experience either but that all changed now that we traded my wife’s model 3 in for a Kia EV6 GT. It has 576 hp, 545 torque and 0-60 in 3.4 seconds. It drives amazingly in straight lines and corners great. You can actually even drift it like a normal car. The interior is much more like a normal car and is really nice too.

We are averaging 260 miles of range on a full charge (EPA rates it at about 200 for some dumb reason). It was cheaper than my Mojave at $50K now as prices have dropped.

I love my Mojave and my 21 has only 8K miles still but eventually I think I’ll get that 4XE if the prices can stay like the ICE ones. The 3.6 is what’s holding the JT back from being a near perfect truck to me. I’m not sure yet if I’d go full EV on my truck given that we have 1 EV already and I’ve always viewed the truck as our road-trip vehicle. I don’t really like depending on charging stations but maybe that’ll change at some point. We have yet to need a charging station (outside of our home one) for the Kia as 260 is way beyond the range we normally need. Also my commute each day round trip is less than 20 miles so the hybrid should be fine.
 
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I have to ask... If the 3.6 is a solid reliable motor, the 8 speed is an amazing transmission, and the 4.10 gears are solid for the Rubicon models especially....why do we want more power? I know I know...I'll take it....but why does every brand chase the power numbers? Imagine going back to my old CJ-7 and being offered THIS power train.... I'd take it in a second. I loved that 258 straight six...and very simple to work on.... But the AMC 20 rear end was weak, it was slower than dirt and we have improved things greatly. So yes...we already have more. But I'm also a Toyota fan. And one thing I like is they never chase everyone else. They improve, but stick to what works. The new Tundra doesn't have the highest payload, towing HP or tq in it's class. But it's solid. So why do we need to win that way with everyone? It doesn't translate to their vehicle being more capable than ours. Throw on 35s or very easily throw on 37s with our Lockers and where do they win? Wow, more power....ok, so do Ferraris and other cars. But they can't go where we go. And, it's pretty darn reliable.

With all that said I hope they're waiting on the hurricane motor to thoroughly test it before they put it into their flagship vehicles. After all, it's the wranglers and gladiators that go off into the unknown and want reliability. I'd love it if they kept the diesel and made it more reliable and fixed the problems. But here we are.

I'm a happy customer willing to wait for slow and steady and reliable improvements.
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