2024/2025 JT+JL V6 Hurricane / 4xe / 392

[ShadowsPapa]

I’m with you here. I didn’t have any complaints about the 3.6 in my JK but it simply isn’t enough power for the gladiator without screaming down the highway.

Kids now days.......... so many forget that we had cars and trucks that had a highway RPM of 3,000 or MORE. That 3,000 RPM is with the 3.15 ratio. With the stock 2.73 is was only a bit better, but put in 3.54 or 4.10s and you were screaming down the highway. There was no overdrive unless you bought it as an option in certain vehicles.
I'm so used to 2,000s, and even 3,000 rpm this sub-2,000 drives me nuts. Wind that b!#ch up and move along!
So to me, when mine pulls along at 3,000 rpm, I'm quite happy and it's no pooch then.
I hardly ever shift into 5th in my SX4 unless my wife is along - that way it's harder to speed or smash the throttle. 5th in that car will last forever.

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A bowl of chili or a beer or two, I'll let you know.........

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[BourbonRunner]

Same , you seem to have a lot of knowledge on the subject. Have a nice day

I'm knee deep in advocacy for property rights on a daily basis. This falls under the umbrella. Have to do a fair amount of reading and research to stay on top of things. Our state assembly session begins in a couple days so everything is ramping up to say the least.

And you have a great day as well!

 

[alpineovernappa]

Kids now days.......... so many forget that we had cars and trucks that had a highway RPM of 3,000 or MORE. That 3,000 RPM is with the 3.15 ratio. With the stock 2.73 is was only a bit better, but put in 3.54 or 4.10s and you were screaming down the highway. There was no overdrive unless you bought it as an option in certain vehicles.
I'm so used to 2,000s, and even 3,000 rpm this sub-2,000 drives me nuts. Wind that b!#ch up and move along!
So to me, when mine pulls along at 3,000 rpm, I'm quite happy and it's no pooch then.
I hardly ever shift into 5th in my SX4 unless my wife is along - that way it's harder to speed or smash the throttle. 5th in that car will last forever.

Kids now days.......... so many forget that we had cars and trucks that had a highway RPM of 3,000 or MORE. That 3,000 RPM is with the 3.15 ratio. With the stock 2.73 is was only a bit better, but put in 3.54 or 4.10s and you were screaming down the highway. There was no overdrive unless you bought it as an option in certain vehicles.
I'm so used to 2,000s, and even 3,000 rpm this sub-2,000 drives me nuts. Wind that b!#ch up and move along!
So to me, when mine pulls along at 3,000 rpm, I'm quite happy and it's no pooch then.
I hardly ever shift into 5th in my SX4 unless my wife is along - that way it's harder to speed or smash the throttle. 5th in that car will last forever.


A bowl of chili or a beer or two, I'll let you know.........

It has nothing to do with age, but thank you for the compliment! Its simple mechanical wear- an engine turning at 3600 RPM will typical wear twice as fast as an engine turning at 1800rpm. The reason that the 4L had so much more longevity than the 2.5 in the TJs is an example of this. Faster rotation and elevated pressures shorten longevity. I’m not saying the 3.6 isn’t a good engine, it’s just underpowered for the gladiator and FCA Chrysler Stellantis Peugeot Jeep have plenty of other engines they could have used instead (I’m looking at you, 5.7). Gladiator owners are forced to choose between an underpowered gas engine that makes all its power up high or an over-powered under cooled diesel that’s plagued with EPA-related failures. Neither option is a good fit for the gladiator IMO

 

[Uparms]

Just for fun, anyone top out yet at 120. I was 110 mph over the Roth bridge on the C&D canal last night coming home from the grandkids. You should have heard that soft top hummin...... only 20-30 seconds at most...... #Bonniville

 

[Uparms]

Just for fun, anyone top out yet at 120. I was 110 mph over the Roth bridge on the C&D canal last night coming home from the grandkids. You should have heard that soft top hummin...... only 20-30 seconds at most...... #Bonniville

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[ShadowsPapa]

Just for fun, anyone top out yet at 120. I was 110 mph over the Roth bridge on the C&D canal last night coming home from the grandkids. You should have heard that soft top hummin...... only 20-30 seconds at most...... #Bonniville

I didn't think any of these were not locked at below 120. Check the build sheets....each model has a "governed speed".
Fun to get DW at 120......

 

[sharpsicle]

Fun to get DW at 120......

At that point, "DW" really stands for "death wish".

 

[bleda2002]

Just for fun, anyone top out yet at 120. I was 110 mph over the Roth bridge on the C&D canal last night coming home from the grandkids. You should have heard that soft top hummin...... only 20-30 seconds at most...... #Bonniville

I may have hit approximately 95 for a few seconds on a certain stretch of i-75 on 39 km3s. Considering my rear tire balance isn't perfect it was a bit disconcerting, but the truck was still holding 7th with 5.13s lol. Highly not recommend and will go back to keeping it under 80 on the highway as it has been for the last 27k miles.

 

[Charles 236]

At that point, "DW" really stands for "death wish".

After experiencing the "Jeep Death Wobble" many times in customers Jeeps, I have decided that I don't like the negative image of Jeeps that "Jeep Death Wobble" conjures up. I have decided to call it the Jeep Happy Dance instead. I have experienced "death wobble" not just in Jeeps, but in my personal favorite wobblers, the '68-'78 Ford F100 with the Twin Shimmy Beam suspension.

 

[texanjeeper]

As stated, the V8 is dead. No 392 in a Gladiator, ever, unless you pull one out of an existing vehicle and put it in the JT. As for electric, well, that's just stupid and I would think that Stellantis knows that. They have an electric Jeep that only gives it about 15 miles of range, which isn't worth the trouble.

 

[chorky]

It has nothing to do with age, but thank you for the compliment! Its simple mechanical wear- an engine turning at 3600 RPM will typical wear twice as fast as an engine turning at 1800rpm. The reason that the 4L had so much more longevity than the 2.5 in the TJs is an example of this. Faster rotation and elevated pressures shorten longevity. I’m not saying the 3.6 isn’t a good engine, it’s just underpowered for the gladiator and FCA Chrysler Stellantis Peugeot Jeep have plenty of other engines they could have used instead (I’m looking at you, 5.7). Gladiator owners are forced to choose between an underpowered gas engine that makes all its power up high or an over-powered under cooled diesel that’s plagued with EPA-related failures. Neither option is a good fit for the gladiator IMO

Some engines are built specifically for higher RPM’s and in that case since it is made as such there should be no excessive wear. The underpowered complaint that many say is a first world problem. Its just fine on power. Not many years ago we had full size trucks rated to haul 10,000 pounds with the same amount of power, or even less, than the JT. I think this power complaint is primarily due to Americans addiction to ‘gotta get there NOW’ and inability wait Or be inconvenienced.

 

[Rusty PW]

Just for fun, anyone top out yet at 120. I was 110 mph over the Roth bridge on the C&D canal last night coming home from the grandkids. You should have heard that soft top hummin...... only 20-30 seconds at most...... #Bonniville

I may or may not have hit 110 mph on a unnamed stretch of road (Toll 43) during the break in process. And have may did it again or not after installing a Banks Derringer set on #6.

 

[Rusty PW]

Some engines are built specifically for higher RPM’s and in that case since it is made as such there should be no excessive wear. The underpowered complaint that many say is a first world problem. Its just fine on power. Not many years ago we had full size trucks rated to haul 10,000 pounds with the same amount of power, or even less, than the JT. I think this power complaint is primarily due

to Americans addiction to ‘gotta get there NOW’ and inability wait Or be inconvenienced.

Horse Power sells. Just like sex sells.

 

[DailyMoparGuy]

As stated, the V8 is dead. No 392 in a Gladiator, ever, unless you pull one out of an existing vehicle and put it in the JT. As for electric, well, that's just stupid and I would think that Stellantis knows that. They have an electric Jeep that only gives it about 15 miles of range, which isn't worth the trouble.

470 lbft of torque from that 4 banger paired with the battery ain’t stupid to me . I couldn’t care less about full electric range though.

 

[BlueScapegoat]

I've had my Dodge Ram in the neighborhood of 160 before, but you folks talking about doing 100+ on mud tires and all terrains are nuts. I think I accidentally hit 80 once trying to get around some guys to make my exit

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