Bumper Reverse Lights

[ORACLE Terry]

no no no, this one:

https://www.oraclelights.com/produc...adiator-reverse-lights?variant=39347283656801

at least one vendor offers this as a package with the lights, just wondering if it's a factory package or what.

https://www.northridge4x4.com/part/...acle-rear-bumper-led-reverse-lights-w-harness

That's a bundle that they have put together. A good one, too... But just order each and get the 15% Spring Forward promotion on both.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Mine came with the plug and play harness - remove tail light, disconnect factory connector, plug Oracle harness into each end of the factory wiring, drop the leads to the bumper lights out near the bottom (there's a hole I have pictured in my shots), run over to the backup lights in the bumper, connect, screw connector together, done.

 

[Paulyester]

Wait, now I'm confused... I just ordered the reverse lights with the 7-pin harness, and it looks like I should have ordered this one

https://www.oraclelights.com/produc...adiator-reverse-lights?variant=39347283656801

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Wait, now I'm confused... I just ordered the reverse lights with the 7-pin harness, and it looks like I should have ordered this one

https://www.oraclelights.com/produc...adiator-reverse-lights?variant=39347283656801

Yes, this is the one I use and like a LOT. It also made it super super easy for me to set things up for my aux switch to turn them on if I wanted.
I had no idea Oracle was now bundling with the 7 pin harness.
I like the tail light connector setup personally. Allows me to more easily modify things.

 

[chasebank]

Don't you need two harnesses (one for each side)? Looks like the harness only has two extensions, one female and one male, but each light has a female.

If that's the case, a little confused by the Northridge picture only showing one harness, but assuming it's actually two, that looks like it's still a better deal even without the 15% discount.

Edit: Maybe I'm wrong about the lights being female. It's hard to see. The t-harness photos are even more confusing...

 

[PW45]

That's a bundle that they have put together. A good one, too... But just order each and get the 15% Spring Forward promotion on both.

order submitted!

should point out this was better deal with the 15% off than the NR package no offense to those guys I love them too.

Don't you need two harnesses (one for each side)? Looks like the harness only has two extensions, one female and one male, but each light has a female.

If that's the case, a little confused by the Northridge picture only showing one harness, but assuming it's actually two, that looks like it's still a better deal even without the 15% discount.

Edit: Maybe I'm wrong about the lights being female. It's hard to see. The t-harness photos are even more confusing...

that's what I thought too but after seeing @Shadowpapa's pictures above, it all made sense, you only need 1 and it has both the pigtails on it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Don't you need two harnesses (one for each side)? Looks like the harness only has two extensions, one female and one male, but each light has a female.

If that's the case, a little confused by the Northridge picture only showing one harness, but assuming it's actually two, that looks like it's still a better deal even without the 15% discount.

Edit: Maybe I'm wrong about the lights being female. It's hard to see. The t-harness photos are even more confusing...

The plug and play harness I got has a connector for each light.
Each connector has 2 pins - power and ground


Here is their plug and play harness - note that I put plastic loom over each length of wires but you can see both connectors in this pic - center lower half of picture.
The top is a roll of that plastic loom I used, scissors, my tailgate ladder, etc.
The tail light connector is on the lower left.
If you plug their harness into the left tail light then the short lead goes to the left bumper backup light and the longer one goes over to the right bumper backup light.
The connectors push together and then a shell screws over it all to hold it together.

 

[Alan SOBX]

Oracle is bright and very easy if you get the plug-and-play harness ($30 extra). You only need one since the hook up to the driver taillight runs a wire inside the bumper to the right side.

 

[23Freedom]

Unfortunately I've been off the Forum a few days and just saw this post.... Here is my very recent experience with Oracle's rear bumper lights if it helps anyone. Just a heads up!

Quality - Appear excellent, bright, fit flush, factory look

Application/Compatibility - OK, here is the story that may help some folks in the future. I have a 2023 Freedom with LED front package/halogen rear tail lights. I made a large Oracle purchase over Black Friday. Included tinted tail lights, rear bumper lights and the plug and play adapter mentioned throughout this thread (one with pigtail that plugs between factory harness and factory (or Oracle) tail light. I have the TAZER mini so did not plan on needing resistors. Oracle's adaptor harness web page even states “Will work with halogen equipped Gladiators with use of programmer." I'm switching to LED tail lights and I have a programmer so no worries either way, one would think!

I receive my order and finally get around to installing 12/27/23 (dates become relevant later). Everything goes smoothly, appear to be quality products including harness. I test in reverse bumper lights work, no problem. HOWEVER..... my left Oracle tail light reverse is out. My right reverse flashes on/off. OK, quality issues with tail light is well known so I assume that's the problem. Just to make sure I checked my TAZER programming. Yeap, switched to LED. I installed resistors just to see what would happen, no change. So I contact Oracle and explain in great detail, as you can imagine from this post.

The next day CS responds and says remove resistors. Ummmm yeah, I had the issue prior to resistors. The resistor install was only a test because per directions "reverse light resistor that should be installed on each tail light if the reverse lights shut down when in use." Then I'm told "
As far as the reverse lights go, we have found that the bcm shuts down the reverse lights when the bumper reverse lights are hooked to the taillight circuit. We recommend to move the wiring down to the 7pin trailer harness." I'm also provided a convenient wiring chart for a 7-pin harness. Ummmm yeah, didn't I buy the tail light harness to avoid splicing my factory connections? I'm not going to splice my 7-pin either. Especially when you sell a 7-pin adaptor that is essentially the same thing as the harness I was sold.

I bring this to their attention and after a few days of "thinking" they agree to send me the 7-pin. I can send the tail light harness back. Oh yeah, even though it is available on their site to purchase it isn't to be "sold or distributed" until 2/2/24. Ok, well that sucks but I'll wait.

1/15/24 - "Pre-order placed for 7-pin" per CS email

3/1/24 - Having not received the harness, CS email sent. Reply states should ship out today. (I assume that means there was no pre-order placed)

Today - No 7-pin harness has arrived, no reverse lights working on my bumper following a 12/27/23 install.

Now, with all that said.... they are pretty responsive to emails when I send to them. I will likely send one this weekend asking for status of 7-pin again. I did have a tail light reverse light issue also. Once bumpers were disconnected they "worked" but one was dimmer than the other. I reported this to CS on 1/7/24 following a voltmeter check, I knew it was a bad LED module. They have me switch the modules between sides (like that will matter, see voltmeter test), take pictures, so on and so forth. On 1/27/24 a new tail light was shipped. Following install it works great!

I'm not writing this to slam Oracle. Again, they have been responsive but they do ask you to jump through a lot of hoops and self-diagnosis prior to warranty. They also tend to "forget" to ship promised pre-orders. I am writing this to try to save someone a hassle. The bumper lights are quality made from what I can tell. The install is a shot in the dark. If you have LED tail lights OR plan to use a programmer I highly recommend the 7-pin OR wire to an aux switch per their CS response regarding BCM shutting down. The tail light quality remains to be seen but there is no getting around it looks much better than stock or any other I've seen (IMO). Good Luck!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If you have LED tail lights OR plan to use a programmer I highly recommend the 7-pin OR wire to an aux switch per their CS response regarding BCM shutting down. The tail light quality remains to be seen but there is no getting around it looks much better than stock or any other I've seen (IMO). Good Luck!

Actually they work perfectly fine with LED and the tail light harness.

I seem to remember some other setting other than just telling it LED lighting - I'd have to dig into that.

 

[ecidiego]

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/brighter-backup-lights.76050/page-3#post-1241371


I mounted some rigid ignite series in a diy plastic cut out. Tapped into the trailer harness with a 1 second delay relay (doesn’t light up when shifting from park to drive… must be in reverse for a moment), with a manual override switch.

spot light on the passenger side, flood diffused on driver- works great in the mirrors and wonderful in the camera as well.

would look even better if you relayed out the tag lights in reverse!

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

would look even better if you relayed out the tag lights in reverse!

I can totally see this for those that use the reverse camera- I really only use it when first going into reverse backing out in parking lots. Otherwise I do 98% of my reversing by looking in the mirrors.

I am not 100% but I think this is a tazer option too?? I might play with that this weekend and take another photo for comparison. ???. (Have the tool, so why not use it ??‍- “in the name of science!”)

 

[Mr._Bill]

I can totally see this for those that use the reverse camera- I really only use it when first going into reverse backing out in parking lots. Otherwise I do 98% of my reversing by looking in the mirrors.

I am not 100% but I think this is a tazer option too?? I might play with that this weekend and take another photo for comparison. ???. (Have the tool, so why not use it ??‍- “in the name of science!”)

That is one of the 'live' features of the Tazer. It turns off the license plate lights when in Reverse.

I bought the harness off eBay and installed it. It makes a big difference in picture quality. I have a cap on the back and can't see out of the rear view mirror, so I have to rely on the camera and side mirrors.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

That is one of the 'live' features of the Tazer. It turns off the license plate lights when in Reverse.

I bought the harness off eBay and installed it. It makes a big difference in picture quality. I have a cap on the back and can't see out of the rear view mirror, so I have to rely on the camera and side mirrors.

Thanks. I’ll check it out.
I also have a cap that makes the rear view pointless.

 

[23Freedom]

Actually they work perfectly fine with LED and the tail light harness.

I seem to remember some other setting other than just telling it LED lighting - I'd have to dig into that.

The quoted info is direct from Oracle customer service regarding the BCM shutting down. Perhaps it is only some LED models, perhaps only something with TAZER but either way they (and my experience) say it doesn't always work. Just something to be aware of for those considering purchase. I would say go 7-pin as customer service "guarantees" this will work. Can't speak from personal experience as I've been waiting to receive it since January.

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