Overland edition payload

[thetruth1983]

You’re wrong the auto with tow package can tow 6,000 in the overland

That's what I said. Without the factory tow package, the automatic is maxed at 4,500 pounds.

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[JET_83]

maybe you’re thinking the JL wrangler?

 

[JET_83]

That's what I said. Without the factory tow package, the automatic is maxed at 4,500 pounds.

• 240-Amp Alternator
• Class IV Receiver Hitch
• Heavy-Duty Engine Cooling
• Trailer-Hitch Zoom
• 
  not sure that’s gonna improve the max towing capacity 1500 lbs

 

[thetruth1983]

https://cdn.dealereprocess.org/cdn/servicemanuals/jeep/2021-gladiator.pdf

That's the manual for the 21 Gladiator. See pages 205-207.

 

[JET_83]

https://cdn.dealereprocess.org/cdn/servicemanuals/jeep/2021-gladiator.pdf

That's the manual for the 21 Gladiator. See pages 205-207.

I stand corrected, wouldn’t think the HD engine cooling would give an extra 1500, thought it was 6,000 regardless of having the tow package so long as it was automatic. Thanks, man!

 

[thetruth1983]

I stand corrected, wouldn’t think the HD engine cooling would give an extra 1500, thought it was 6,000 regardless of having the tow package so long as it was automatic. Thanks, man!

It makes no sense I know. I have an overland without the tow package. That's why I've been looking at trailers with a dry weight of 3000 lb or less.

 

[Pescado]

Could the lower rating in the Overland be due to it's gearing? It's different than the sport and rubicons

 

[steveorama]

Could the lower rating in the Overland be due to it's gearing? It's different than the sport and rubicons

If I'm not mistaken, other than the Rubicon, Mojave, and the Max Tow they are all the same 3.73 gearing. There seems to be a misconception that the Overland is somehow different or lesser than the other trims mechanically or suspension wise.

Edit: I just remembered the High Altitudes are also 4.10 gears as they have the wide Dana 44s too. Otherwise they share the same components as the Overlands also.

 

[JET_83]

I stand corrected, wouldn’t think the HD engine cooling would give an extra 1500, thought it was 6,000 regardless of having the tow package so long as it was automatic. Thanks, man!

If I'm not mistaken, other than the Rubicon, Mojave, and the Max Tow they are all the same 3.73 gearing. There seems to be a misconception that the Overland is somehow different or lesser than the other trims mechanically or suspension wise.

Edit: I just remembered the High Altitudes are also 4.10 gears as they have the wide Dana 44s too. Otherwise they share the same components as the Overlands also.

I believe the springs in the sport sport s and overland are the softest from the other trims.

 

[steveorama]

I believe the springs in the sport sport s and overland are the softest from the other trims.

Actually the springs that came on my '21 Overland also matched those that came on a Willys of the same year. The Willys just got the red shocks from the JLR otherwise the suspension appeared to be identical.

 

[JET_83]

Actually the springs that came on my '21 Overland also matched those that came on a Willys of the same year. The Willys just got the red shocks from the JLR otherwise the suspension appeared to be identical.

Must be just the tires then, I found the Willys to ride much worse

 

[Mr._Bill]

The rating decrease, without the Factory Tow Package, is due to the missing receiver and cooling capacity. The towing capabilities are similar across all the trim variants. The rating from the factory is based on the combination of engine, transmission, and installed options.

 

[Komato]

https://cdn.dealereprocess.org/cdn/servicemanuals/jeep/2021-gladiator.pdf

That's the manual for the 21 Gladiator. See pages 205-207.

Thanks for posting this,

IF this is accurate, I should be ok at least on the GVWR side. Still concerned about the payload numbers that seem to be all over the place.

it’s a little confusing why they have 3 different GVWR ratings in 3 different places

 

[darinradz]

Thanks everyone for all the responses and great discussion! I work nights so missed all the discussion. Here is a photo of the door plate on my specific Overland.

 

[LostWoods]

Diesel does affect the payload.

Positively in some cases... since the diesel gets the wider axles, it gets the 6,500lb GVWR too so an overland or Sport with the diesel actually have a higher payload than they normally do. Gimps the Rubicon even harder though.

Thanks everyone for all the responses and great discussion! I work nights so missed all the discussion. Here is a photo of the door plate on my specific Overland.

That's like 140lbs lower than the spec assuming a gas truck... I'm guessing you have a ton of factory options and/or maybe a few dealer installed Mopar add-ons?

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