Roll bar damage from the factory

[BuyHold]

So, it seems these 2023 gladiators were not the best quality …

Overall sounds frustrating. Wonder though, is this part based only on your Jeep's issues, or do you have data that supports there 2023s have higher-than-historical defect rates?

I’ll make a list of all other quality issues, but this is unacceptable! Especially when my first (of 3) 36k gladiator was flawless!

I would be interested in hearing about your other issues. Agree, bummer you are seeing issues.

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[Escape.idiocracy]

Woah, I never pushed my tank that hard, always 17 at most. Supposedly our tank is 18 gallons … but I am currently on stock rubicon mud terrain tires. My gladiator rubicon on stock tires is about the same as my 80th anniversary on 37in KO2s and a Mopar lift.

So this 2023 Gladiator I cannot get more than 25mpg, which is good, but not like my last one. My last one got 30.2 going from Phoenix to Albuquerque at 75mph, and when I got home the 1100mi trip was saying an average of 29.7mi.

Is it possible that the falken wild peak MT are tat much worse than the stock 80th anniversary tires? I upgraded my LJ 32” KO2 with 33x10.50 KM3 mud terrains and the mileage is the same.

Tires can definitely play a role in economy both pattern and weight. But you’re tracking less than what I get and I’m rolling a 37.

I wouldn’t say pushing the tank for 18-18.5. The light is literally just coming on. Can follow up in a month or two when artech skids are installed. I have a haunch that we have 20 gallon tanks with 1.5-2 gallon reserves as a HPFP safety…..

 

[Hootbro]

I guess no pics?

 

[ecidiego]

I guess no pics?

 

[GeneralMaximus]

I’ll report back with what the dealer says. Imm probably take it in Friday for “the list” and an oil change.

Some people just… never learn.

 

[Billkowski]

Overall sounds frustrating. Wonder though, is this part based only on your Jeep's issues, or do you have data that supports there 2023s have higher-than-historical defect rates?

I would be interested in hearing about your other issues. Agree, bummer you are seeing issues.

For what it's worth the 23 gladiator was ranked number 1 in initial build quality by JD Powers.

 

[sharpsicle]

For what it's worth the 23 gladiator was ranked number 1 in initial build quality by JD Powers.

Hey man, don't let facts get in the way of a good story!

 

[KevinC]

I can't believe we are all sitting around waiting on a picture of this guys toolbar or rollbar, whatever he is calling it today.

Come on man, the suspense is killing us. Even a blurry pic will do.

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

Especially when my first (of 3) 36k gladiator was flawless!

This is one post (among many that I've seen on here) that make me wonder: Insanely wealthy or massively upside down?

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

Someone had to do it.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Is it possible that the falken wild peak MT are tat much worse than the stock 80th anniversary tires?

You have to ask that? Heck yes!

Changing tire weight, width, going to a more aggressive tread, absolutely.
I lost mpg just going from my stock tires to 3/4" wider A/Ts - of the same diameter and weight.
Tread matters! Width adds to rolling resistance.

So I guess we could sum it up, all in fun - with a DUH ?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

For what it's worth the 23 gladiator was ranked number 1 in initial build quality by JD Powers.

So far, mine is testament to that....the only issues have been front shocks leaking (I have to wonder - could the weight of a snow plow have played in their demise???) and the weird hot restart misfire which was not a quality control issue, but my PCM sat in the corner wearing the dunce cap and refused to learn the CCDIFF - we we had to slap it on the palms of its hands and tell it to try again. and it did. No misfire.
As of 18,000 miles, some cross-country, some towing, very good quality.
Not saying "it's always going to be perfect and nothing will fail" but - quite happy at this point. Panels even line up. That's just crazy.

 

[Hootbro]

OP must be on a 2400 Baud Modem dial up service and it is going to take three days for the upload.

 

[sharpsicle]

OP must be on a 2400 Baud Modem dial up service and it is going to take three days for the upload.

He’s developing the negatives as we speak.

 

[Viper501]

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