Second Jeep, Second Major Issue…

[Wheelin98TJ]

I’ve been watching this one. Not exactly local but it looks great.
https://perkinsmotors.com/for-sale/...2021-jeep-gladiator-rubicon-1c6jjtbm0ml583099

That seems expensive for a 2021 with 55k miles.

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[3TDJEEP]

That seems expensive for a 2021 with 55k miles.

I agree. But people are definitely asking more for the the used Diesels. Not sure if they are actually getting it though. I know I'd pay a premium to get a diesel over a Pentastar.

 

[Ramboy]

That seems expensive for a 2021 with 55k miles.

I agree but KBB lists it at $36k trade in value so it’s probably in the ball park. Maybe they bumped up a bit for the diesel.

 

[3TDJEEP]

I agree but KBB lists it at $36k trade in value so it’s probably in the ball park. Maybe they bumped up a bit for the diesel.

The diesel was a $4,150 option.

 

[Gvsukids]

Has anyone else gone through something similar?

We had to go through 4 years of issues with our first motor.

 

[DirkG]

Metal grinding sound and brake issue? That doesn't sound major, at least not yet.

Yeah I was wondering the same thing.

OP, I get the 4xe dying on you, but can you elaborate on the metal grinding sound and what brake issue are you experiencing?

 

[2NOBROS]

The metal grinding noise is still being investigated by the dealer, so I don’t have a diagnosis yet.


As for the brake issue, it was a squeaking noise. Another Jeep dealer inspected it and found that it was caused by a brake shim issue. They repaired it, and the squeaking noise disappeared.

Yeah I was wondering the same thing.

OP, I get the 4xe dying on you, but can you elaborate on the metal grinding sound and what brake issue are you experiencing?

 

[DirkG]

The metal grinding noise is still being investigated by the dealer, so I don’t have a diagnosis yet.


As for the brake issue, it was a squeaking noise. Another Jeep dealer inspected it and found that it was caused by a brake shim issue. They repaired it, and the squeaking noise disappeared.

OK, good. I've changed my brakes countless times and brake shims sometimes don't set properly. That should have been a 5-minute fix. That's good news.

For the metal grinding noise, that means possibly metal parts are rubbing together which is not a good thing. Could this noise also be brake related? (hopefully). Is the noise coming from the wheel well or the engine bay?

 

[WilldWilly]

I am a firm believer that vehicles have gotten so expensive because with all the electronics, and failures they decided to build that cost in the price for each vehicle sold. So each vehicle comes with the standard warranty coverage built right in. Still a bitch to get things covered. Was told one my situation was unique, and the dealer had not heard of the problem before. Outside was thee other vehicles with the same issue waiting for parts.

I was a big diesel guy until the DEF crap. Then I said no more new vehicles with a diesel.

 

[2NOBROS]

OK, good. I've changed my brakes countless times and brake shims sometimes don't set properly. That should have been a 5-minute fix. That's good news.

For the metal grinding noise, that means possibly metal parts are rubbing together which is not a good thing. Could this noise also be brake related? (hopefully). Is the noise coming from the wheel well or the engine bay?

It’s definitely not coming from the engine. Since the noise gets louder as the speed increases, I think it’s more likely coming from the drivetrain.

 

[DirkG]

It’s definitely not coming from the engine. Since the noise gets louder as the speed increases, I think it’s more likely coming from the drivetrain.

Let's hope it's not the drivetrain. Fingers crossed and keep us posted.

 

[JmattNYC]

Get some holy water and an exorcists to rid you of those 4XE demons (yuck).. Espiritu santo!!
Anyway i predict once they fix your issue with the gladiator you will be fine. Stay with maintenance and don't be afraid to do the old Italian tune every few days you will be fine.

 

[JTdiRtyD]

That seems expensive for a 2021 with 55k miles.

I agree. But people are definitely asking more for the the used Diesels. Not sure if they are actually getting it though. I know I'd pay a premium to get a diesel over a Pentastar.

I'd say with painted top, lifted, winch, and with the options it's fair priced to the market. Being a diesel they'll list it at high end to allow room for haggling. Downside to this truck is the factory warranty is expired, so it's 42K plus any third party warranty costs. Being lower mileage theres a chance it will need a turbo in the next 50k and it will no longer be covered. $12k bill that my buddy just had covered under the 5yr/100k mile powertrain warranty.

I searched for a while, and my buddy searched for his for a while, anything Rubi diesel under 100k miles was +35k, and all were outside a 500 mile radius. I didn't see anything stay listed for too long. I was lucky to get mine locally for $39k with under 30k miles, it was just by chance that I mentioned I really wanted a diesel when I went to test drive a Mojave, and another salesman overheard and mentioned they just got one in end of lease and it wasn't even through inspection yet. I bought it before it even hit the lot. They already had 3 others waiting to put a deposit on it.

My buddy just paid $34k for a 70k mile Rubi diesel, branded title manufacturer buy back. He couldn't find anything else priced that low unless you went way up in mileage, so he took a chance with a buy back truck because it came with a 1 year manufacturer bumper to bumper warranty.

 

[ChrisNLA]

I'd say with painted top, lifted, winch, and with the options it's fair priced to the market. Being a diesel they'll list it at high end to allow room for haggling. Downside to this truck is the factory warranty is expired, so it's 42K plus any third party warranty costs. Being lower mileage theres a chance it will need a turbo in the next 50k and it will no longer be covered. $12k bill that my buddy just had covered under the 5yr/100k mile powertrain warranty.

I searched for a while, and my buddy searched for his for a while, anything Rubi diesel under 100k miles was +35k, and all were outside a 500 mile radius. I didn't see anything stay listed for too long. I was lucky to get mine locally for $39k with under 30k miles, it was just by chance that I mentioned I really wanted a diesel when I went to test drive a Mojave, and another salesman overheard and mentioned they just got one in end of lease and it wasn't even through inspection yet. I bought it before it even hit the lot. They already had 3 others waiting to put a deposit on it.

My buddy just paid $34k for a 70k mile Rubi diesel, branded title manufacturer buy back. He couldn't find anything else priced that low unless you went way up in mileage, so he took a chance with a buy back truck because it came with a 1 year manufacturer bumper to bumper warranty.

I looked at used diesels a number of times but after finding out its a cab off or pull the engine halfway or all the way out to get the turbo out -I decided I'll just replace camshafts on occasion

 

[JTdiRtyD]

I looked at used diesels a number of times but after finding out its a cab off or pull the engine halfway or all the way out to get the turbo out -I decided I'll just replace camshafts on occasion

Yeah, less than ideal for sure. Kind of why I'm glad mine just popped the code and should be getting a new turbo, because I'm nearing the end of the warranty. Get it done now and hopefully it won't be an issue again.

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