So max towing or not.

[ecidiego]

Yes, I've never really understood the altitude package to be honest. I guess it's just meant as a value package to save some money on some nice features.

Wouldn't it be nice if you could buy the LED Lighting Package and the Active Safety Group and not buy rear LED's twice? LOL

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[jebiruph]

Due to it's wide axles, the Max Tow requires wider fenders than the LED package fenders, so maybe that's why Max Tow isn't available if the LED package is available.

 

[jgrgich]

Max tow is only an option on Sport, Sport S and Altitude package, with max tow rated at 7,650 lbs, all the other trims have a max of 6000 lbs with the auto transmission.

I have a 2020 Gladiator Rubicon. Several other sites and dealer confirmed my tow capacity is 7k.

 

[Gvsukids]

Due to it's wide axles, the Max Tow requires wider fenders than the LED package fenders, so maybe that's why Max Tow isn't available if the LED package is available.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/max-tow-led-package.36355/

I have a 2020 Gladiator Rubicon. Several other sites and dealer confirmed my tow capacity is 7k.

Yes, that's clear and established.

 

[seven30]

I’ve heard towing with the Mojave is a nightmare, though. ?

I tow with mine. And its a manual tranny to boot. But not 7000 lbs. More like 3500. I really wanted a manual otherwise it MaxTow is a no brainer.

 

[seven30]

Yeah. But still. The Altitude and Max Tow are not compatible. This is not a situation where the dealer is getting a Altitude and High Altitude confused. The Max Tow is specifically not available on the Altitude trim. Maybe it's an assembly line thing.

It's still weird. But it doesn't matter because a Sport S can be optioned out to the same level as an Altitude with the addition of a Max Tow. Even the price is within a couple hundred bucks of each other considering the same options.

I spent about 5 hours today calling, reading, and talking with half a dozen people and trying to find out the root of the situation. No answer to the 'why' other than the two just don't mix.

So the Mojave has wider 410 axle/fenders/stance and I believe the LED option is available.
Maybe the higher stance of the Mojave allows that combination to work together.

 

[chorky]

That is weird. The MaxTow does widen the stance slightly I believe. Maybe that is an issue for the Altitude.

Yeah so I called another place last night and was told the the fenders for the Max Tow are specific to the Max Tow. And also lighter. That was also the stated reason that LED lights are not available for the Max Tow. I have a very hard time believing Halogen lights and different fenders really can cause a weight savings.

And for someone who suggested the LED's not compatible with the 'wider' max tow fenders - maybe? But then I would question why the Rubicon is able to have the LED lights. Because the Max Tow axles are basically the same as the Rubicon axles, only without lockers....


I think NachoRandy is correct. That the Altitude is meant to be a 'value' package to get a bunch of the 'typical' upgrade options on the Sport S at a lower cost than adding them individually....

 

[jebiruph]

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/max-tow-led-package.36355/

Thanks for the link, but it's seems like just people speculating and no one actually getting a combination of Max Tow with LED. What would those fenders look like, wouldn't you have the Max Tow plastic with the LED lights?

 

[seven30]

Thanks for the link, but it's seems like just people speculating and no one actually getting a combination of Max Tow with LED. What would those fenders look like, wouldn't you have the Max Tow plastic with the LED lights?

Just went to the jeep build, selected Altitude, MaxTow and LED headlight group. MaxTow forces automatic upgrade but otherwise its not complaining. And it selec-trac can be added with MaxTow which is pretty cool.

 

[sharpsicle]

Just went to the jeep build, selected Altitude, MaxTow and LED headlight group. MaxTow forces automatic upgrade but otherwise its not complaining. And it selec-trac can be added with MaxTow which is pretty cool.

If multiple dealers are telling him he can't do it, then it's pretty meaningless what the online configurator says. Wouldn't be the first time it's been wrong.

The ordering system the dealers use are the real benchmark for what is or is not possible. If they can't input your configuration, you sure aren't going to get it.

 

[Gvsukids]

Yeah so I called another place last night and was told the the fenders for the Max Tow are specific to the Max Tow. And also lighter. That was also the stated reason that LED lights are not available for the Max Tow. I have a very hard time believing Halogen lights and different fenders really can cause a weight savings.

And for someone who suggested the LED's not compatible with the 'wider' max tow fenders - maybe? But then I would question why the Rubicon is able to have the LED lights. Because the Max Tow axles are basically the same as the Rubicon axles, only without lockers....

Rubicon also have taller fenders.
Max tow flares have an additional plastic piece which isn't found on any other flare.

 

[chorky]

Rubicon also have taller fenders.
Max tow flares have an additional plastic piece which isn't found on any other flare.

What plastic piece is that? I am curious...

Would it cause issues running taller tires? Thats good to know the Rubi has taller flairs. I didn't realize that. Pics I have looked at all seem the same so it's hard to tell I guess.

All the little things that people should be able to tell you but dont because they usually don't know or dont care.

 

[seven30]

If multiple dealers are telling him he can't do it, then it's pretty meaningless what the online configurator says. Wouldn't be the first time it's been wrong.

The ordering system the dealers use are the real benchmark for what is or is not possible. If they can't input your configuration, you sure aren't going to get it.

Should we ask JeepCares if their online build tool is not accurate? I would be pissed if I speced it then found its not a valid configuration after placing the order.

 

[Mac]

With the factory option cost of led lights being pretty high now I believe you can change out the halogen lights to factory led for around the same price as the option package after purchase with oem parts.

 

[sharpsicle]

Should we ask JeepCares if their online build tool is not accurate? I would be pissed if I speced it then found its not a valid configuration after placing the order.

You can't place an order directly online, so.....

You might take your "configuration" to a dealer, and they would then inform you they can't order it as spec'd. Has happened before to members. Things change but the online tool doesn't reflect it. Either way, no order would be able to be placed until you configure it in a way that the dealer's order system accepts. That system is completely separate from the online configurator and will have differences in available options and pricing.

The online tool is great for getting a general idea. It is not great for getting a specific build. For specifics, and confirmation of what you can or can't order together, you need to get in touch with a dealer.

Back to the question at hand, if multiple dealers are telling him that the Altitude cannot be ordered with the Max Tow package, then they can't order it. Showing them a piece of paper from the internet won't change what their system is allowing them to do. One person saying no, sure maybe they're doing something wrong. But 6+ phone calls all with the same answer? Sounds like he really can't order it. If someone has a dealer on the line that says differently, that would change the conversation, and I'd just go order through them if they claim they can do it. But in the grand scheme of things, you can just order a Sport S with your desired options instead and not be missing out.

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