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Possibly, but I've dealt with these guys for quite a while now. Multiple vehicles. I mainly just never count on FCA/stellantis or any other manufacturer to actually take care of their product. Plan for out of pocket, and if they cover it great, if not, so be it.
That’s your choice. Some of us expect different after laying out the amount of cash these things cost. YMMV…
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It seems logical that a lift would negate suspension warranty claims, gear upgrades would eliminate axle warranties, but unrelated systems should not be affected.
 

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My Jeep is my daily driver. I don't want to deal with chasing down chassis and/or steering issues if I can avoid it. So it stays stock.

Because while a life won't "void a warranty" the dealer would be within reason to deny a claim that related to steering, suspension, driveshafts, or U joints. If you want to own that, then fantastic.

If my Jeep was not my daily driver, then I'd be fine with it. Its all about expectations and understanding the implications of your actions.

The fact that the OP has a pedestal lift in his garage tells us that hunting down steering or suspension issues is not something he's afraid of.

For every guy like the OP, there is a novice mall crawler who puts a 4" spacer lift on his truck (kind of kidding) with all stock suspension parts, then gets pissed when the dealer won't cover a warranty claim that the truck doesn't steer right.

I'm exaggerating to make a point. But its perfectly reasonable for the manufacturer to refuse to warrant an item or items that are impacted by an item that you have changed or replaced.

Its also unreasonable for a dealer to refuse to honor the warranty on items that are not affected. The idiot with the 4" spacer lift should still expect his power windows to be covered. for example.
 

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My dealer notified me before purchasing that lifting required a special surcharge to be included in the warranty.
This came up when working through the final options when I made my purchase ... it basically stated that any lift made to the vehicle would not void warranty. I paid it ... I had no idea if it was a Jeep thing or a dealer thing (probably dealer) ... but given Jeeps history of avoiding/voiding warranty I'm glad I did and have it documented. To each there own ...
 

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It really varies dealer to dealer. Mine said as long as I didn't go forced induction, engine swap or axel swap then we were all good. If you have multiple options in your area do research on the dealers before you take it in.
 

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Nice but that's never going to void your warranty. I only had 27 miles on mine and had 35's and lift on it. I ordered everything while I was waiting to sign the paperwork. Dropped it off at the shop the next morning, Had 35's put on on the drive home from the dealership.
My third party warranty would be covered up to a 2.5" lift as that's what can be installed from Mopar. So adding 35's isn't out of the question but the dealer to void a warranty.
 

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It seems logical that a lift would negate suspension warranty claims, gear upgrades would eliminate axle warranties, but unrelated systems should not be affected.
Magnussen Moss Warranty Act of 1975 is your friend. A lift could invalidate a suspension claim, or even a claim on a CV joint. If you wanted to get absolutely nit-picky a larger than OEM wheel could invalidate a differential claim. An exhaust could invalidate an engine claim if the dealership is willing and able to demonstrate the change in back-pressure caused the failure, which is almost unheard of but not impossible. A supercharger will definitely invalidate any engine claims.

None of those things should impact any other systems and invalidating a claim on a warranty should put a note on that vehicle's VIN in the mnfr's system that future claims of the same type will not be honored (can't just take your 4" lift off and drive it to another dealer to have your CVs replaced), but it will not affect the status of the warranty as a whole, or your ability to make claims on parts that cannot be directly tied to your modifications.
 

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My dealer notified me before purchasing that lifting required a special surcharge to be included in the warranty.
What crooks
 

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That’s your choice. Some of us expect different after laying out the amount of cash these things cost. YMMV…

I bought mine when they first came out. The sales manager at the dealership already had his Rubicon with 37's and decked out. For the items I have had it in for they covered every single one. Including the death wobble that was caused by MY AFTERMARKET UPGRADED STEARING DAPNER. Yep they simply put a new OEM back on there for nada.
I guess the economy has changed that much since 2019
 

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... I mainly just never count on FCA/stellantis or any other manufacturer to actually take care of their product. Plan for out of pocket, and if they cover it great, if not, so be it.
I share the same mentality as you. Although I have left my JT stock (for now), I have a 2014 JK that I started modding the day I brought it home, and I knew there were things that I was going to have to take responsibility for. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of people can't afford to pay out of pocket for repairs, just like they can't really afford to purchase the vehicle in the first place.
 

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I share the same mentality as you. Although I have left my JT stock (for now), I have a 2014 JK that I started modding the day I brought it home, and I knew there were things that I was going to have to take responsibility for. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of people can't afford to pay out of pocket for repairs, just like they can't really afford to purchase the vehicle in the first place.
Anyone that modifies their vehicles before the factory warranty is expired (excluding cosmetic things of course) should be aware that those components are now their responsibility. If that’s not acceptable, the vehicles shouldn’t be modified until after the warranty is gone. One way to mitigate some of this, is to have major projects done by a reputable Jeep shop, who will warranty their own work. I do most of my own work, but paid to have suspension and gears done. It cost more, but the shop now warranties the project and parts through those vendors. Please don’t take this the wrong way. Doing your own modification and upgrade work is great, but it’s on you to deal with any problems that result. If you don’t want those problems that absolutely happen, don’t modify suspension or drivetrain. Skid plates and lights don’t void anything, just two examples.
 

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I share the same mentality as you. Although I have left my JT stock (for now), I have a 2014 JK that I started modding the day I brought it home, and I knew there were things that I was going to have to take responsibility for. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of people can't afford to pay out of pocket for repairs, just like they can't really afford to purchase the vehicle in the first place.
If it were not for warranty, I'd just buy used. And skip the depreciation. I expect a new vehicle to have warranty coverage, because I'm paying for it with a new (or even certified pre-owned) vehicle. I've been there done that with modifying vehicles and paying out of pocket. This time, it's nice to just leave it alone, and let them cover it when stuff breaks. As much as I drive, the 36000 mile warranty is gone in less than 2 years anyway. I can wait that long. Nothing wrong with the pay to play mentality. I've done it too. This time, I'm not messing with it. I've already made it a year. One more to go.
Or to put it another way, if I do modify it, I'm going to modify it with stuff with a warranty. I don't want to pay out of pocket for repairs on a new vehicle again, because a big part of the purchase price was the warranty.

It just comes down to the amount of risk one is willing to take.
 

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Possibly, but I've dealt with these guys for quite a while now. Multiple vehicles. I mainly just never count on FCA/stellantis or any other manufacturer to actually take care of their product. Plan for out of pocket, and if they cover it great, if not, so be it.
I’m the same, but was actually amazed how Ford serviced and supported my Raptor with transmission issues. It was a nice surprise. Also they preemptively added warranty for the cam phaser issues some where having with the 3.5.
Wasn’t enough to keep me Ford, but was nice to see!!
 
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Right, but I assume the Raptor was all stock. I would expect that with a stock truck. Still nice to have a good service dept for sure.
 

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I share the same mentality as you. Although I have left my JT stock (for now), I have a 2014 JK that I started modding the day I brought it home, and I knew there were things that I was going to have to take responsibility for. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of people can't afford to pay out of pocket for repairs, just like they can't really afford to purchase the vehicle in the first place.
Whether the purchaser can or can’t afford the product has nothing to do with them expecting the manufacturer to live up to its end of the agreement they enter into when one purchases a new product.

The buyer agrees to whatever purchase price he negotiates and the manufacturer agrees to back that product through a warranty service for a set period of time.

The fact that you can or cannot afford to buy the vehicle, can or cannot afford to pay for a covered repair, or choose to pay for said repair even though its covered by the manufacturer/dealer are all irrelevant individual matters.
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